Sky Games In April..

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by wfc4ever, Mar 11, 2021.

  1. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    2 announced:

    Monday April 5 (12.30pm KO) v Middlesbrough A
    Friday April 9 (7.45pm KO) v Reading H

    Guess more will come later on.
     
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  2. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    I know they're May but I would guess that both of our final two games are almost certain to be shown if the fight for second place remains as tight as it has been.
     
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  3. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Certainly will be and probably Luton/Norwich too .
     
  4. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Oh Lordy!
     
  5. Siohmy

    Siohmy Reservist

    I know other teams are covered quite extensively but it almost feels like we’re on Sky every week this season. Anyone know how often we’ve been featured (excluding red button) this season compared to other teams? Keep telling my friends we’re bigger than Leeds!


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  6. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    @Siohmy

    Saw this on another site:

    Joint number of times with Swansea.

    I hope it’s not too small !
     

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  7. Siohmy

    Siohmy Reservist

    That table is interesting. Sky have basically shown the two dullest teams (at least until the turn of the year for us) the most times! I’d have thought from a neutral standpoint both Norwich and Brentford would be more attractive propositions. Of course we are the big draw now!


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  8. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    I think it's the Deeney effect. If you were to ask someone who "supports" a top PL club to name as many players in the Championship as possible, I reckon 90% of the time Deeney would be the first name mentioned.
     
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  9. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    The London-centric broadcasters love coming to Vicarage Road though. Can be back home in bed at a decent time for evening games.
     
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  10. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    More surprising to me is how high Forest and Birmingham are on that list. Both dull teams stylistically that aren't exactly pulling up trees either. Blackburn and Barnsley have hardly featured at all.

    All the teams at the very top of the list will be pretty familiar to recent followers of the PL and are towards the top of the table. I don't think those are great criteria for broadcasting schedules but they're better than "oooh Forest won the European Cup twice" or "Birmingham is a big city" which I would imagine are the criteria driving those clubs' appearances. But they see all the viewership data so they are better placed to make these judgements than us or anyone else.

    That said, I don't really understand why they don't get the NTT20 Podcast guys (who they feature and work with after every Friday night game and are very knowledgeable about the EFL) to pick the games; I think they'd do a better job.
     
  11. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    I mean...those clubs probably still do have a big fanbase, much like Leeds when they were a mid-table Championship team
     
  12. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Would be better if it was more like the PL and more linked to merit and league performance. I believe the championship TV deal is £5m per team irrespective of how many times you’re shown, which is why Leeds were moaning about it so much. In the PL you get facility fees every time you’re shown and the amount of times you’re shown broadly reflects how good you are. I appreciate the deal is the deal as it stands, but the whole EFL package needs ripping up and indeed the whole PL/EFL imbalance complete readjusting, £2.7bn per year for 20 Prem clubs and, £120m for 72 EFL sides, but that’s another story and more down to the complete mismanagement and lack of direction from the EFL.
     
  13. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    So the bigger and supposedly better clubs get more money - isn’t that the complaint about the Premier league though?

    Too much power and revenue to one set of clubs over the others?

    And as you say the PL with its 20 clubs get way more than the 72 EFL clubs so it’s very lopsided .

    As someone said above we have been on the most due to a newly relegated side but you can count on one hand the number of enjoyable games we have been in!
     
  14. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    No, I’m not saying that. If you look at the distribution of facility payments every season in the PL they always broadly correlate with league position. Obviously teams like Liverpool and Utd will feature heavily, they’re well supported teams, but broadly speaking teams like Liverpool will always be towards the top of the league anyway.

    In the PL teams are guaranteed to be shown a minimum amount of times each, then additional games are chosen based on performance, the importance of that game at the time etc. As I say, the amount of times teams are televised is always broadly in line with their ultimate league position.

    If the same applied in the championship then of course the teams at the top would get featured more, that’s what happens now, but it’s not a question of featuring big teams it’s a question of featuring teams doing well, so the likes of Barnsley, etc would get featured more.

    I’m talking about rewarding (and thereby encouraging) sporting achievement, not the size of the club. Of course there will be an element of overlap.

    The PL system in isolation is in fact very fair, it’s way better than any of the other leagues like Serie A and La Liga where the money is concentrated far more at the top. The problem is too much money is concentrated within it, if you had a similar system down the EFL then things would be far better. Scrap parachute payments and have the top of the Championship worth something like £50m, with the bottom worth something like £5/10m. Guarantee a minimum amount of games to each team and make the rest based on performance.
     
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