Sh!t hit the fan

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Avispón, Feb 17, 2018.

  1. Avispón

    Avispón Academy Graduate

  2. Avispón

    Avispón Academy Graduate

  3. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    My Spanish is a little sketchy, but from what I understood it's something about Watford and Udinese.
     
  4. No probs I can translate: feeh feeh feeh scorchio bootross bootross ghali
     
  5. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Who cares what a bunch of lazy, animal torturing, siesta monkeys have to say. We're an English club subject to English sovereignty
     
  6. Similar dynamics were carried out by another of the main defendants, Gino Pozzo, former owner of the Granada, who was provisionally released after declaring before the magistrate who instructed the so-called 'Operation Líbero'. The Italian businessman used screen companies to manage his assets abroad.
     
  7. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Heard Bassini's just turned up to see Gino with a red builders hat, the key to the safe, a six pack of beers, a fishing rod and a bucket of chicken.
     
  8. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Operation Libero? Was this a futile attempt to find us a ball-playing centre half?
     
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  9. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    My Spanish isn’t great either, but it roughly translates as ‘all that’s wrong with football’.
     
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  10. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    ‘The former president of the Watford, Raffaele Riva, was summoned to appear as a defendant in Spain in a matter of alleged money laundering involving the Granada of the second Spanish division, announced Friday the court in charge of the case.

    The National Court, a high court in charge of complex financial matters, investigates "the alleged irregularities" committed by Enrique Pina and Gino Pozzo, as well as "the companies and football clubs linked to them (among them Udinese Calcio, Granada CF and Watford), "the investigating judge wrote in his decision, dated February 15.

    Enrique Pina, president of Granada, and Gino Pozzo, its owner until the sale of the club to Chinese businessman Jiang Lizhang in 2016, are charged with alleged tax evasion and money laundering between 2013 and 2016, the judge said.

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    "Raffaele Riva may have participated in the events under investigation in this case," especially for having managed a company belonging to Gino Pozzo based in Spain, according to the judge's decision.

    Pozzo is also the owner of Watford, in the English first division, and son of the owner of Udinese of Serie A Italian.

    "Apparently the three clubs form a mercantile triangle whose returns generated in the sale of players are distracted from the respective National Treasuries and go to a holding company in Luxembourg," the judge said.

    Raffaele Riva resigned at the end of 2016 from the Watford presidency after an investigation was opened for alleged falsification of bank documents.’

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  11. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Wasn't this reported a few weeks ago?
     
  12. No. It was a futile attempt to sugically create a ball playing centre half from the best bits of other players.
     
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  13. Avispón

    Avispón Academy Graduate

  14. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Yawn, we get this every year, nothing will happen.
     
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  15. Vicarage Road

    Vicarage Road Reservist

    I bet lineker and Samuel are spunking in their pants the ******* tarts!
     
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  16. Sahorn

    Sahorn Reservist

    When will we accept that we at Watford FC are now all that is wrong with English/European football:

    *Own multiple clubs to set up inter-club shenanigans.
    * Loan players by the dozen with unfair competition and detriment to all other English clubs.
    * Virtually destroyed the proud heritage of bringing on academy players, blooding them in the first team and selling them at rock bottom prices to the established elite clubs.
    * Bring in Johnny Foreigner players to the detriment of our own home grown talent and have few British born regulars in the team.
    * Have foreign players who dive and roll around feigning injury at the slightest touch.
    * Sack managers on the slightest whim. (What is this nonsense of ‘coaches’ that don’t control the running of the whole club)?
    * We’re not a ‘fashionable’ club and just a backwater in the shadow of ‘proper’ English clubs.
    * We even falsify bank accounts.
    * it’s about time Watford stopped acting above their station and get back into the lower leagues where they belong.

    Why can’t we just be a ‘proper’ little club run by British people playing British Home-grown players and know our place. Why do we have to be owned by foreigners bringing foreign money and foreign players who can’t even speak the mother tongue into our British Institution.

    I mean, our top clubs don’t have money pumped into them from overseas sources that have nothing to do with football; with foreign owners bringing in foreign players and managed by foreigners - do they?
    We at Watford should be ashamed.

    The mega journalists like Mr Samuel and know-it-all pundits and club managers and fans have all got our number - we don’t deserve to be where we are because we are a club lying and cheating, with unscrupulous people in charge who do not have the clubs heritage at heart of knowing our true, natural place in the lower tiers of English football.

    Why can’t Watford just go away.
    We are all that’s wrong with the game and are just about universally hated. Anything that can bring us down is a bonus.

    Well Mr Samuel, I’ve got news for you.
    We’re not going away.
    Watford will not be relegated anytime soon.
    We are here to stay and other clubs will eventually also have foreign owners and lots of foreign players and even ‘coaches’ rather than managers - oh, hang on .....

    They can all stick it where the sun don’t shine.
    #nobodylovesuswedontcare
     
  17. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    If it annoys the pikeys up the road then I'm delighted.
     
  18. J.B

    J.B First Team

    Sorry, what exactly does Martin Samuel have to do with Gino Pozzo and Raffaele Riva once again being linked with tax evasion and various other illegal financial irregularities?
     
  19. Levon

    Levon Squad Player

    Sounds like the saga revolves around Granada. For Watford, it’s probably going to be a case of being ‘guilty by association’ in the eyes of the media and Crystal Palace fans.
     
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  20. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Featuring Danny Shittu?
     
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  21. Sahorn

    Sahorn Reservist

    Don't you read the Daily Male ??

    Don't you know that we're all that's wrong with English football and this is just another example as Riva allegedly faked the HSBC letter and this is just related to the whole sorry sad saga of Watford FC trying to act above their station and not hanging on to existence by their fingernails in the lower leagues.
    Mr Samuel is quite a fan of ours if you bother to read him.
     
  22. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    No Watford fan should be reading the Mail.
    Nor the Sun for what they said about us and GT

    In fact why is anyone buying a physical paper these days?
     
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  23. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Fixed for you.
     
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  24. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    No one should read the Mail.
    I spend a happy few minutes in Waitrose hiding all copies!
     
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  25. Sahorn

    Sahorn Reservist

    When I say 'don't you read the Mail' obviously I mean the online links that are posted on here by our army of fans who pick up any published media news on Watford FC.

    Mr Samuel' s links are usually every negative and include 'Watford are a snapshot of everything that is wrong with modern football' and 'Lets hope Watford' s owners get what they deserve' after the sacking of Silva.
     
  26. Stevohorn

    Stevohorn Watching Grass Grow

    Cause we have to get our shots in early in case MS writes something nasty about us again.
    When he does we have to respond by saying "who gives a **** about what people think of us!!!" Followed by a minimum 500 words of "not giving a ****"
    It helps if you can include the phrase "Everything that's wrong with the game" (just in case we forget that someone once wrote that about us) and to tell everyone which newspapers to read.

    Lastly, if you are going to go for the full stock response, you need to add something about being proud of being a small club.. that is unless someone else mentions it and then you have to take umbrage with them.

    These are the rules JB.
     
  27. J.B

    J.B First Team

    It really is utterly bizarre behaviour.
     
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  28. Sahorn

    Sahorn Reservist

    Yey Stevo, I only broke one rule, feeling quite proud of myself
    :)

    But just wait until someone (from Everton?) calls us a small club :mad:


    (Just bored with a no game weekend - roll on the toffees)
     
  29. Stevohorn

    Stevohorn Watching Grass Grow

    Yes well we all get a little stir crazy during non match times o_O
     
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  30. ITK platypus

    ITK platypus Squad Player

    Pozzo is a Machiavellian genius and will never be caught. There will be many more 'shocking' revelations that comes to nothing under his stewardship in the coming years. Main highlights:
    • It will emerge that Udinese does not exist and was invented as a means of money laundering.
    • Watford FC will be relocated to Liechtenstein to ensure easier European qualification (but mostly for tax benefits). This will be met with apathy from the fans.
    • We will learn that Almen Abdi was never paid any wages as he was a sentient android created by a laboratory to help us get promoted (and also earning us tax credits from the Swiss government).
    • Finally, we will find out that Pozzo himself never existed, except on paper. He was an invention of Laurence Bassini who is still our legal owner.
     
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  31. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

  32. barker

    barker Academy Graduate

    I'm sure there are far more suspect goings on at clubs with owners who have made their money in dodgy dealings in Russia and China, and other exotic places, or even through their porno empires, but it does make me a bit concerned, about Watford in particular, and more generally about the state of modern football finances and the people involved - oh, for the good old days - when Terry Venables met Brian Clough in a motorway service station with the plain brown envelope ...
     
  33. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Club is rotten to the core. Our owner is a crook, our captain is on the booze and getting banned all the time, all our good players are injured, all the others are **** and our young players are unfit, buying brasses and don't care.
     
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  34. Vicarage Road

    Vicarage Road Reservist

    In harry, we have the best mascot in the land, that’s all that matters
     
  35. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    It will take the imminent fines, points penalties, and 4 successive relegations before people wake up and smell the coffee.
     

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