Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by Sting, Mar 12, 2017.
Well that was fun. England blew them away
Great win - only one point less a margin than the record 37-0 back in 1911
Hmm... got to say Wales deserved that win on the 2nd half performance.
England didn't really threaten .
Will they now win the Grand Slam?
That’s my annual rugby game.
(I was watching, not playing.)
Get the **** in - win dounle in cardiff
Oops may be more than slightly pissed
Wales 21 english public school nancy boys 13
Loads of strawberry cord boys crying in their beer tonight
Joe Marler maybe showing it's not just football pundits who can look foolish .
Predicting a double figures England win !
Mind you even Sam Warburton expected England to win
Always better to blame predictive text.
Sounds a successful couple of weeks sportingwise chez Onion.
Opens its up again! With Ireland to go to Wales on the last day..
Well that must have brought down many England fans down with a bump especially those who had already jumped the gun thinking not only the Six Nations was already wrapped up but the World Cup too. In effect it was what Ireland mistakenly did against England in needlessly kicking the ball away. Possession is nine tenths the law in rugby and England clearly had no plan other than that in the second half refusing to use their backline. This is what seperates New Zealand from the rest in that the players on the pitch can think for themselves and mix it up according to what is before them instead of just playing a formula.
The only bright spot should be that with Curry and the Underhill brothers the backrow is well stocked for the future. Wales deserved their win and Eddie Jones needs to keep his mouth shut before launching off on his feeble attempt at mind games.
Can you please get away from these stereotypes. The game in the south west and Midlands is very what would be described as working class. Players like May, Curry and Farrell are all comprehensive educated as well among others.
So World Rugby (formerly known as the IRB) after examining the global state of the game identifying the problems with player welfare and developing the sport have come up with plans that have alienated the World Players Union, the Pacific Island unions in particular and have shown that the pursuit of money only breeds more greed.
The plans involve creating a 12 world team league and a unified northern and southern hemisphere season. And no promotion or relegation to this idiotic World League for eleven years.
So much for player welfare with even more Test matches in the schedule. So much for developing Tier Two nations into Tier One and those in tier three into the second level. It also undermines the World Cup as the pinnacle of the sport and a ban on promotion is contrary to all principles of sport in trying as an individual or team to better yourselves.
It is a retrograde step should it be adopted. At present after the players have spoken out it seems thankfully unlikely. It is a shame that this idea was even mooted at a time when union is rapidly growing globally. There are new continental tournaments, more coaching expertise finding it's way to every continent and a rise in professionalism. Such as the new US league with three Canadian teams set to join. The South American Championship, African Cup and Asian Cup as well. Nations in Europe like Belgium, Germany, Russia and Spain are starting to move clubs to a professional set up and a Georgian franchise is proposed for the Pro14.
One must feel for the Pacific Island unions in particular. It seems every attempt has been made to exclude them from moving forward. Western Samoa as they were then kicked out of Super Rugby, the islands plundered for their players by the established unions from school level. Even with Fiji riding high in the rankings they are set to be excluded. No wonder they along with Samoa and Tonga are considering a boycott of this years World Cup. They also get shamefully treated in their allocation of gate receipts in the Autumn Internationals and like many of the so called lesser unions had to suffer with players not being released for the early World Cups. Back in 1991 and 1995 Fiji for instance had to almost beg for official blazers to be made as they could not afford it.
I am especially disappointed with WR's vice president Agustin Pichot. He better than anyone should know the difficulties the non old boys union network made life difficult for the Pumas to get Test matches and entry into the Tri Nations championship. Hopefully given the outcry against these idiotic proposals Brett Gosper, Bill Beaumont and Pichot and the bean counters will drop these nonsensical plans.
Wales Grand Slam it seems .
Have England gone home early or something?
Goodness knows what Eddie Jones will say after this - probably drop the lot of them!
Perhaps he will have the good sense to shut his mouth for once. His verbal tirades are becoming tiresome. You don't hear Steve Hansen belittling the opposition before matches. All in all this Six Nations means that the Northern Hemisphere will have a very good chance of winning the World Cup. Wales , Ireland and England can all approach it with real confidence and Scotland with a fully fit team could make a deep run.
I take Onion is Welsh so warm congratulations on a deserved Grand Slam. Gatland is a great coach and the infrastructure put into place by him will serve Wales well for the future despite the worries over this merging of Ospreys/Dragons and replacement by a north Wales region. Perhaps not the expansive rugby of Wales in their former heyday but it is very difficult to play like that in the modern game. And Alun Wyn Jones. A great player to rank alongside players like Merv the Swerve, a great person and a great captain which all coaches need.
I'm just relieved we (England) didn't lose that and managed to salvage a draw. Feels ridiculous to be relieved with a draw after being 31.0 up but if Scotland had finally won away in that way they'd never let us forget it
Well done to Wales though as I was in a Welsh bar for the 2005 grand slam they won, them winning a grand slam or beating England always brings back bad memories
I don't get Rugby. Spain are crap at it.
But leading 31-0 and still not winning sounds a bit mental to me.
They actually almost quailed for the World Cup this year but then got kicked out in very controversial circumstances.
Contrast with cricket where Afghanistan has risen through the rankings to become a test match country.
The greatest sporting story of the century.
The Lions as they are known have been playing rugby under the auspices first of FIRA since the thirties. Pretty decent at sevens and they have been doing better in recent years. However that is due to the number of 'imports' they have fielded mainly from France. They have produced some excellent players in the past like Cesar Sempere, Pablo Feijoo and Northampton legend Oriol Ripol. Rugby is predominantly played in the Basque region and towards the north of Catalonia.
In recent years Perpignan in French Catalonia have played games in Barcelona and there were recent talks of creating professional rugby clubs attached like basketball, volleyball with Barcelona FC and Real Madrid. It's a slowly growing sport there and but for the fiasco with wrongly registered players Spain would have had a chance to qualify for Japan.
Indeed. However cricket like rugby but even more extreme has really pulled a brake on the sport with the old Test nations reluctant to help develop the game and limiting participation at World Cups. Cricket is truly a parochial sport played in a handful of countries to a reasonable level whereas rugby union is played in nearly almost every country now with about thirty or so playing to a decent standard and a dozen or so at the top level.
In any sport when you lose focus and think the game is won is when you are vulnerable . Argentina were 31-7 up against Australia in the last Rugby Championship. They were running rampant dismantling the Wallabies. Cue the loss of Nicolas Sanchez and a fortunate charge down try (cue the two intercepts yesterday) and Australia won 45-34. So it can happen. The proverbial game of two halves.
Yes I am and thank you sir - had to run from the vic at the end of the game to get to pub just in time to hear the anthem. Pretty much perfect performance from Wales to make it a fantatsic day all round
The England / Scotland game kept me in the pub rather longer than expected - was like 15 man Sevens - brilliant entertainment for a (by that stage) pissed neutral
Sounds like some sort of Rugby FA conspiracy to me.
the treatment of most tier 2 nations is appalling
Not good news for the Aussies - one of their key players being "sacked" after making comments on Social media about Gay people - it might be his beliefs but surely in today's society not the sort that can be shared in public.
And now an England star has got involved - bit of a headache for Eddie Jones potentially.
Can someone explain what’s going on with Tigers? I’ve never followed the rugby at all but I remember them being a really big deal when I was a kid, winning the European Cup and what have you in the early 2000’s. I hear they’re pretty **** now though, what’s gone on?
Mid-table in the Champ, m8.
Too many coaches and big egos ?
Still got loads of Internationals but maybe the general squad isn't good enough ..
Fallen behind the likes of Exeter and Saracens
TBF the same could be said for Newcastle and London Irish - two top teams who've 'rested on their laurels'. Although in the holy trinity of recruitment, training methods and dosh, the effects of the latter are becoming too dominant: I can see both Exeter and Sarries getting 'done' for breaking salary caps 'soon' and there have been a lot of grumblings about just how much of a financial basket case Sarries is becoming.