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Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by wfc4ever, Mar 5, 2019.

  1. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    4-1 down to Ajax and undone by a VAR goal which took 4 minute to sort out..

    HB1 will have a party tonight !
     
  2. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Brilliant that Ramos got booked on purpose last time out thinking he was being smart and now will be suspended for the opening group game next year.
     
  3. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Am I right in reading they tried to save Madrid by seeing if a ball went out of play 65 yards away from the Madrid goal? I didn't see this live so BBC may be giving a false impression but this feels like someone trying to go back as far as possible to help a big boy out?
     
  4. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Yeah. Ajax player saved the ball going out in his own half with a sliding effort. Very close to being out if it wasn’t. He got up, ran a short distance then laid it off into the middle. Ajax then built a move down the other wing, the ball came to Tadic on the edge of the box and he took a step inside and pinged the ball into the top corner.
     
  5. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Seems a complete misuse of VAR? So let's say we are 1-0 up against Man Utd and go 2 nil up and they decide to have a treasure hunt with VAR. Hold up! Ball was out earlier so gentlemen we are restarting in the 5th minute at 0-0 with a throw in :)
     
  6. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    Tadic was an absolute joy to watch tonight, the spin and through ball for the 2nd goal was utter filth.
     
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  7. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I’m not sure what the rules of engagement set by UEFA are but yeah, by the way it’s been run so far in England that shouldn’t be allowed. Shouldn’t be reviewing throw in decisions. I will say though it wasn’t so far removed that you’d think it was a complete joke to consider it the start of the move leading to the goal.
     
  8. Stevohorn

    Stevohorn Watching Grass Grow

    or maybe they will slip down La Liga even further and we will draw them in the Europa League?
     
  9. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    True they are having a shocker and good to see
     
  10. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Wasn't it wonderful. For me, this is the perfect use of VAR. Finding ways to knock RM after Michael Oliver personally gave them a bye into the final last year. To see the mighty RM fall as they are doing this season, and to get knocked by a cleaning fluid company, is a joy to behold.
     
  11. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    I wouldn't be calling Ajax that in the company of anyone one the numerous great players they've had over the decades or any classics scholars either for that matter!
     
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  12. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    TBF I think he was having a joke as Ajax is a cleaning fluid....

    Great performance form them and their players will certainly catch the eye of the premier European clubs.

    De Jong has already agreed to join Barca - he'll be even more popular now!
     
  13. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Personally, I blame Gareth Bale.
     
  14. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Yep. It was a truly Daz performance by Ajax. if I may be so Bold, the Tide has really turned in Europe. What a pity for that Fairy Bale.
     
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  15. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    Bang! And Real Madrid are gone.
     
  16. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Ajax more or less invented modern football.

    For a club not much bigger than we are now that is mind boggling.
     
  17. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    CR7 must be highly amused.
     
  18. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Reservist

    I reckon a fair few players are going to bale on this team now
     
  19. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Reservist

    Funny stuff. An unpleasant club, with an unpleasant history (a bit like Juventus). The ultimate club for glory-hunters.
     
  20. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Blimey - views on the last minute Man Utd VAR decision?
     
  21. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Man U win with a VAR penalty..

    Good practice for next season then !
     
  22. Squibba

    Squibba Predictor Choker 14/15

    Amazing. I love football.
     
  23. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Welcome to every single week in the Premier league 2019/20...
     
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  24. Squibba

    Squibba Predictor Choker 14/15

    Deeney might hit 20 next season.
     
  25. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Reservist

    Glad it was PSG that suffered but the phrase “never in a million years...” springs to mind.
     
  26. Sahorn

    Sahorn Reservist

    EPL new VAR rule next season:

    When the oppo is about to shoot, all defenders must either:
    1. Put their hands behind their back.
    OR
    2. Put their hands in front of their goolies.
    Under NO circumstances can a defenda have his arms in the unnatural position of being beside their sides more than 2 inches away from the torso to balance the body. If the ball strikes the arm under these circumstances, a penalty kick will be awarded.
    (Unless you are a BIG SIX defenda, in which case, as you were).
     
  27. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Exactly.

    The Smalling Exception.
     
  28. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Ridiculous penalty decision. There is a massive disconnect between a referees interpretation and everyone else's. They've reviewed it on VAR and convinced themselves it's a penalty. It seems that all referees are in agreement that it's a correct call, but no one else thinks it was (apart from United fans of course).

    Kimpembe had his back to the ball, arm in a natural position, hit at him from close range and it glances off his elbow. For that to be awarded at such a crucial moment of a big match is insane.

    People moan that all controversy will end by using VAR, think again. That was a total farcical decision and not an English ref in sight.
     
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  29. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    And with handballs opinions will vary anyway so it's still going to be disputed .
     
  30. Hornpete

    Hornpete Reservist

    Farce.

    Bournemouth will be aiming to hit the hands of the defender instead of the goal from next season.
     
  31. Squibba

    Squibba Predictor Choker 14/15

    Seems pretty clear to me, it his arm whatever the intention. His arm has affected the flight of the ball. Penalty.
     
  32. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    Firstly, the fact that his back was to goal does absolutely nothing to take away from it being a penalty or not - and that's before you even consider that he turned his back to the ball after he'd already seen it leave the player's foot.

    Secondly, it was not "close range", he had plenty of time to adjust his body and it was more at least a couple of meters, if not more.

    Third, his elbow, which the ball hit, was clearly sticking out from his body. The handball ruling is less to do with "natural position" , but rather about whether the defender's arm is by his side or not. There was clear daylight between his arm and his torso, so it was sticking out too much.

    As soon as I saw the replay I thought it had to be a penalty.

    Furthermore, decisions such as this one have to be given as fouls/penalties - the reason being that otherwise defenders can intentionally keep the arms out all the time when defending, and just plead ignorance that they did not intend to block shots whenever the ball hits their arm to block a shot. You'd end up with situations such as walls for free kicks where, by your logic, defenders would be allowed to just turn their back on the free kick takers and leave their arms out to reduce the space the ball has to get passed them, while pretending they never saw it.

    Of course Rio Ferdinand was the player most vociferously saying it wasn't a penalty in the studio, what with being a CB and all, as he basically admitted he liked the fact that being more lenient with the handball rule makes it easier for defenders (but gives them an excuse to act like secondary goalkeepers)
     
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  33. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    Not a farce. If the rule wasn't as it is then Bournemouth defenders would run around everywhere with their arms sticking out away from their bodies as if they were goalkeepers prepping themselves for a penalty.

    Actually watch Nathan Ake defend players trying to run and/or cross passed him, and you'll see that he is very deliberate in keeping his arms by his side. Were the rule not as it is you can bet your bottom dollar they'd be as wide as possible.
     
  34. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    That’s not the rule though until next season.
     
  35. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Thought handball had to be deliberate ? Whether it affects the course of the ball was less relevant, a player had to be intending to handle it. Having your arm in an unnatural position became an indication that it was deliberate. Being expected to take your arm out of the way of the ball from a natural position in a split second seems a very harsh interpretation of "deliberate".
     
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