Reading 1-0 Watford Fc - 03/10/2020

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by hornmeister, Sep 29, 2020.

  1. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Coincident with what? Besides, an asset is only worth what you can actually get for it, not what you (or the newspapers) say it is worth. Everton were taking a gamble with him as he was not performing at Watford. See my other post above.
  2. Sahorn

    Sahorn Reservist

    The positive from yesterday was it highlighted to Gino the dire need for a quality no 9.

    Pretty tippy tappy footie with 2 shots on target despite our dominance and 2 goals in 4 games shows how poor we are.
    It’s not the quality of midfield, they didn’t have an outlet..

    Deeney, Gray, Perica, Murray, Welbeck, Success, new signing (Mario ? lol), it’s season defining decision time for the Pozzos before the window shuts.
  3. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Reservist

    Probably not wrong but surely you never come up with all of that based on watching highlights?
  4. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Its amazing that four games into the season we haven't really played with a striker and yet still have seven points.
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  5. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    This easy argument-clincher.
    I met a bloke in the pub once whose aunt had met the manager of the fellow who cleaned the boots of Stanley Matthews and once had a kick-around with the great man in the car park. Therefore I know more about football than you do.
  6. fuzzy73

    fuzzy73 Reservist

    True but if Middlesbrough had a decent striker we wouldn’t be on seven points.
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  7. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Yes, and Sheffield Wednesday. But this is the Championship and they don't.
    Neither do we , sadly. Where is our new Marlon King?
  8. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Like Glenn Murray, for instance?
  9. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

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  10. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    People conveniently forget a few important things when to comes to Doucoure.

    Firstly we did actually turn down £35m for him, since that point he has been poor and inconsistent for us. How can we possibly ask for more than we turned down for a player who is both now older and had declined?

    People are saying we should be valuing him on what he could do for Everton, but surely that cuts both ways? Yes, he could be brilliant for Everton, but as evidenced by the last 18 months he could play well for them to start with, then go completely off the boil in the exact same way he did for us. That’s surely why his price could only ever be south of the last offer we got? Suggesting we could/should have sold him for £40m is pure fantasy.

    The other convenient thing is that Everton offered him £120k p/w, over doubling his wages and obviously the opportunity to continue to play at the top level. Once that happened he was effectively rendered useless to us. At that point Everton had all the power, and in the absence of any other interested parties (because he’d been crap for 18 months so nobody else wanted him) we had to sell him to Everton and hence they effectively got to set the price

    What do people think would’ve happened if we’d said to Everton it’s £40m or nothing? We basically have a player who we’ve denied top flight football to and a £120k p/w contract who would in all likelihood refuse to play for a us and if he did absolutely stink the place out. We’d have an unmotivated crap player on relatively high wages and no cash for him either.
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  11. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Latterly I had no idea what our plan was to score a goal. We played football without any intent to get the ball into dangerous positions. The only times we looked close to threatening was when Reading made an error and we intercepted the ball in their half, but it was quickly snuffed out as we didn't know how to hurt them after an initial barrage.
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  12. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    He's a pace man. Like a lot of players who rely on speed he makes a lot of mistakes. If we are going to be playing against packed, well-organized defences, sitting back deep, he is going to struggle. Liverpool treated us with disdain and left space at the back, which he exploited to great effect. I doubt many teams in the Championship are going to do that and I expect lots more like Reading just choking the life out of our flimsy attack.
    Forgive me for blowing my own trumpet but when he first arrived I posted that we would often find him very frustrating.
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2020
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  13. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    We've looked toothless up front for years. Even in the ace Cup final season we relied on loads of wonder goals.
  14. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Yes, because Gino has always acted sharply on any shortcomings in our squad, plugging gaps with tailor made, upgraded solutions as soon as the problems become apparent.

    At no point has it become clear that he actually just stuffs our playing squad with hopeful punts who might increase in value so he can turn a profit, combined with dross from his network that no sane club would sign or loan.

    I'm being sarcastic, by the way, because the second paragraph is exactly what he does.
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  15. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Indeed. Chris Sutton was ace but I consider his opinions only slightly less informed than a retarded duck's.
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  16. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Some nice passing and possesion football but as ever utterly clueless up front but no real surprises there.

    Formation probably needs changing, using Sarr and Pedro on the wings with someone in the middle. Won't take much to change it.
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  17. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    See post #479
  18. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    You can Hoover a house in 10 minutes?
  19. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    25 min. Started at half time.
  20. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Academy Graduate

    But if we had a decent striker we would be on 12
  21. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Academy Graduate

    No focal point up top
    No player for Pedro and Sarr to feed off .
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  22. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Academy Graduate

    We have the Mane and Salah positions covered but are desperate for a Ferminio
    who glues it all together.
  23. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Your house will be cleaner than mine: I made a cup of coffee.
  24. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    We have plenty of strikers who don't score goals.
  25. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Academy Graduate

    It's the "glueing together" bit that's important
  26. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    Yeah, most of our strikers should be shot and made into glue.
  27. Loyalhornet

    Loyalhornet First Year Pro

    If you truly think that was terrible then you can’t have been supporting this club for very long
  28. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Fifty years is quite a sentence for Burnsy LH.
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  29. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    And if we had we would be on 12 points
  30. fuzzy73

    fuzzy73 Reservist

    No arguments here.

    Dom was amazed we’ve got to seven points and I was suggesting this was as much to do with the opposition being poor up front
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  31. King Dev

    King Dev Squad Player

    Quick note - here's the cup team we used when we played them in 2018. Not sure how their team compares, but ours is probably better than it was, it's very similar at worst. Why doesn't Success get a look in?
  32. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Recently? Because of injury, allegedly.
  33. Agree. 100%.
  34. He lives in a bedsit. No need to rub it in.

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