Pundits Predictions - 2019/20

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by wfc4ever, Jul 16, 2019.

  1. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    1at call from a guy on Talksport for us to be relegated as we rely on Deeney too much and will he cope much longer ..

    Said we might be like Fulham...despite only making one signing so far .

    And think we might get big headed and view ourselves as an established PL team..well 5 years is a lot but guess you always have to be wary .

    Wonder how many other pundits will have us down for the bottom 3.
  2. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    I think we’ll finish below the bottom 3.

    Gravity > Gino.
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  3. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    The bigger discussion was the firm belief that at least one of the traditional Top 6 would drop out and who was most likely so replace them. Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea were suggested as the most likely to exit, and there are legitimate arguments for each of them. Leicester was generally seen as the most likely to step up, but Watford, West Ham, Wolves and Everton were all mentioned.

    Doubt very much it's going to be Watford, still just the one signing so far, don't think it will be Wolves either. Probably Leicester is the better shout. Don't really care who drops out, but if I had to say, probably Utd.
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  4. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Reservist

    Nobody is ever correct at predictions. the only one who comes close is Lawro. But, we all knew that.
  5. hornmeister

    hornmeister Administrator Staff Member

    My prediction is we'll start the season in 18th and in all likelyhood we'll either remain there, or go up or down from that position.
  6. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    It's still too soon to be making predictions about anyone, there's a lot of the window to go yet.
  7. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player


    A lot of hot air about how the cricket should have been a draw.

    In football the winner is decided by alphabetical order! (Assuming the teams are level in all other respects.)

    NZ would still have lost.
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  8. I can't think of a team less like Fulham. Burnley ?
  9. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    I think he was trying to say they were an established club would got ideas ahead of their station so to speak but maybe got confused with someone else!

    I cannot see the Pozzos doing that as you suggest....

    PH is right - was a general discussion about who might get into the top 6 and for once we did actually a mention as a Watford fan rung up but as I say his idea was rather pooed pooed on by the guest on the show!

    Probably will be nearer bottom 6 than top 6 I accept but never know and well if we are relying on Deeney as the journalist felt then yes we will be in trouble!
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2019
  10. Guy

    Guy Squad Player

    Don't mind people predicting us being relegated provided well reasoned arguements for doing so
    Sadly predictions for us being relegated normally based on the following

    We are not a big or fashionable club

    We don't spend big money on transfers

    Apart from Deeney pundits have no knowledge or wish to have any knowledge of our playing staff

    We don't have a British manager

    We are a club most pundits don't think deserve to be a premier League club and should be replaced by more deserving bigger clubs such as Leeds, Forest, etc etc
  11. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Any pundit could predict relegation based on the way we finish every previous season and I’d accept it.
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  12. Sahorn

    Sahorn Reservist

    If the majority of pundits don’t predict we are one of the favourites for relegation I will become disillusioned.

    If they start doing reasoned analysis of Watford’s modus operandi and think beyond Deeney and Doucoure and possibly Doulofeu I’ll be gobsmacked and think the system of lazy journalism and top6/new boys focus is broken.

    But they won’t do a detailed rational analysis.
    They will predict us to fail.
    So all is well.
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  13. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    I think most pundits don't really like us, or at least care for us. They will see us a pointless, boring team who will not go down, and will not get near the top 6. And as such we'll be mentioned rarely.

    I'm ok with that.
  14. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    We've been around for a few years now plus we were in the cup final (although had a poor result), the bookies have us roughly in the middle.

    Taking Coral as an example https://sports.coral.co.uk/competitions/football/football-england/premier-league

    In the PL Win market, we are joint 12th favourites (joint with Palace and Southampton)
    In the relegation market, we are 10th favourites (longer odds than Palace and Southampton)
    To stay up, we're 1/10.
    To finish in bottom half we are odds on but so are West Ham.

    Most pundits will probably place us somewhere between 11th and 15th in their predictions.
  15. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Without Big 6 we are joint 5th with Palace.

    I think there is a lot of value in Wolves failing, the Thursday night jaunts across Europe plus they got lucky with injuries last season, plus they didn't do so great against the lower order teams and done well against the top 6 suggest that the top 6 took them for granted. I think Wolves will have a tough season ahead and finish much lower than last season.

    Wolves 33/1 to go down is worth a few quid but to finish bottom half of 7/4 is good value but is it value enough to take a punt?
    Bournemouth 9/2 to go down is tempting.
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  16. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    I’d say there’s a better chance of Wolves getting ‘given’ a few quality players via Jorge Mendes and doing the same again. Rumours they are getting Diego Costa....
  17. But going by the Downunder alphabet, they would have been above England - therefore would have won...
  18. reids

    reids Squad Player

    On an offtopic note, I was looking through bookies odds the other day and it seems the bookies don't have a clue about League 2 - PaddyPower have every team in the league between odds of 1/6 - 1/200 to avoid relegation!
  19. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    I'd love to get relegated but I predict a steady 14th place finish this season.
  20. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

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  21. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Skyla's prediction that Lawro's predictions will be the most accurate is absolutely wrong. She's crap at predicting
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  22. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    This is the best argument for dissolving the United Kingdom and leaving the EU that I've heard so far.
  23. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    You want the club you support to fail?
  24. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Isn’t it true that in the past 2/3 years, Lawrenson has never predicted Liverpool to lose?
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  25. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    It's a bit too early for accurate predictions, as there is a still a lot of transfer deals to be made.

    However, had the window closed with what we have currently, I think we'd be closer to the bottom three for comfort. I don't think we'd be relegated, but I think we'd be one of the teams fighting it out.

    Hopefully we'll see another CB and a couple of attacking talents added to the squad before we kick off, and that would change my opinion. The end of season collapses always put me on a downer in terms of how I feel we're going to do.

    We're no longer being spoken of in that chasing pack behind the top 6. It's all Everton, Leicester, Wolves and West Ham. Then it seems to be the rest. We are currently in "the rest" group as far as the media are concerned.
  26. If so, he was very nearly right last year !!!
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  27. Sahorn

    Sahorn Reservist

    Wolves off to a flyer 4-0 against the new improved Newcastle in the China friendly cup thingy.
    They start their European campaign soon so as you say this could scupper early season form especially as they have some toughies to start in the EPL.
    But too strong to go down I think.
  28. Sahorn

    Sahorn Reservist

    But Newcastle with Steve Bruce, that’s another thing altogether and their fans aren’t all together on his appointment.
    Lost their 2 top goal scorers, no signings yet ... will be an interesting season for Toons fans ..
  29. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Thing is, he rarely backs them to draw either. I think the season before last, when they totted up the league table based on his predictions, Liverpool won by about 40 odd points with 26 wins and 2 draws.
  30. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

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  31. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Clearly someone has set up the market in the database and given super-short odds as a place holder, it shouldn't have been published to the website. Each company has their own policy, some will set every selection to 1/100 or their status to No Offers.
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  32. 10 defeats then ?
    I guess you mean 36 wins :)
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  33. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    I want us to go down, absolutely. I much prefer the Championship.
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    Markoa$ Reservist

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