Premier League 2016/17 Relegation Watch

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Vicarage Road, Jul 25, 2016.

  1. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Ok fair enough, I just took that from memory. But their fall was spectacular that season, and there are parallels with us.
     
  2. HELGO

    HELGO Reservist

    Let's just hope Palace do us a favour today and we can put all this to bed until May 2018.
     
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  3. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Amen to that buddy.
     
  4. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    If after 38 games we finish 17th then that still doesn't mean we are in a relegation battle. The battle has to be ongoing to be called a battle. I still don't get this relegation talk. While mathematically we are not safe, we have been for a while and still have not really been that close to the bottom 3. Next season is a different discussion altogether but I see our current run of 4 defeats in a row being discussed and that it may well become 6. Yes it's poor but at the start of the season how many points did people honestly think we would get from away games at Chelsea, Everton, Leicester and home games against City and Liverpool? Hull away being the only game we realistically should be winning made it a very tough end to the season.
     
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  5. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    That is quite honestly one of the worst posts I've read on this forum on any subject. Could you really be anymore self loving or pig headed or should we all just bow down in front of you. The thing with people with a great knowledge and understanding of the game is that a good percentage of people understand what they're saying and quite often agree with them, not always as football is about opinions but a very high percentage.
     
  6. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    This post has been liked by both I Blame Bassett and Luther Bassett. Has Fred Bassett formed a view yet?
     
  7. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Well, if Hull win it'll at least make the last game of the season interesting. Survival Sunday is always a good laugh.
     
  8. Aberystwyth_Hornet

    Aberystwyth_Hornet Squad Player

    Can't disagree with any of that. I think I've been more surprised by the resurgence of Swansea since we played them than our own performances in that time because I only expected two to four points in our final 6 - still possible obviously
     
  9. HELGO

    HELGO Reservist

    Fck that
     
  10. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist


    For the love of God, SHUT UP
     
  11. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Your penultimate para. suggests you really have no idea about probability at all.

    However, IF Hull have won in a couple of hours and IF we also get stuffed tomorrow night then we will enter the last day of the season with the oft-mentioned 'squeaky bums' and might revisit the odds depending on the goal difference swing then required to deliver armageddon ...
     
  12. V Crabro

    V Crabro Reservist

    Palace 1 up in 3 minutes - could be safe by 2.00 pm......
     
  13. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    I have decided to enter into a love/hate relationship with Wilfried Zaha ...
     
  14. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    That was conference defending by Hull
     
  15. J.B

    J.B First Team

    No, I'm not. I'm actually surprised and impressed given that you are seemingly lacking in every other area.
     
  16. Aberystwyth_Hornet

    Aberystwyth_Hornet Squad Player

    I'd prefer the draw as I don't really want palace to finish above us but at this stage beggars can't be choosers! :p

    Think a draw is good enough for palace as well.
     
  17. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    All over chaps ...
     
  18. J.B

    J.B First Team

    Hull could still score 3 goals to win the game. They could also get the goals required to close the huge gap in goal difference.
     
  19. Dennis_Booth

    Dennis_Booth Reservist

    I think even HB1, the most pessimistic of pessimists must think we are safe now.
     
  20. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    This argument is pretty much null and void. See you all in the EPL next season:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
     
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  21. jw-

    jw- Reservist

    Hull should have had a penalty really.
     
  22. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Hey HB1. If we lose our final six games but we end up 6pts clear of the relegation zone in 17th will you accept we were never in a relegation battle?
     
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  23. Dennis_Booth

    Dennis_Booth Reservist

    Oh hang on. There is still an hour to go.
     
  24. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    With us cheering on Palarse, why am I suddenly reminded of Mike Bassett?
     
  25. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    To an extent I agree with you about the football, but this post is an indication why so many want to argue every point with you. The post is all about you, and how much more intuitive and intelligent you are than everyone else. It takes the focus of the thread away from the football and on to you. Maybe that is what you want, but then you get upset when they keep it in the personal level.

    Most of us are guilty of this sometimes, and I know I have to keep checking myself on the politics section, but it doesn't make it right.
     
  26. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    The tone of his post was deliberate. Clearly the level of attention he received from other posters yesterday was not sufficient to satisfy his ego so he wanted to ramp it up.

    Anyway looks like we have defied the odds of 1-1500 and avoided relegation so this car crash of a thread can be discontinued!
     
  27. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    All I was doing is putting forward where I'm coming from in the argument. Why I have my opinion. If others take it the wrong way and decide I'm making it all about me or that I'm better than anyone else, then I can do nothing g about that. All I can say is it was not my intention.
     
  28. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky First Year Pro

    Well Hull are going to lose this so this thread can be put to bed now, thankfully.
     
  29. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    This was never my point. I said we are not as safe as you and many others made out. We've only stayed up by virtue of Hull finally faltering and last weeks unexpected defeat at home to Sunderland really hit them hard.

    Watford have done nothing to help themselves......they were completely helpless in this situation, and had to rely on others to come to their rescue.

    So we were 100% in a relegation battle. To finish 17th but to not concede we were in any danger at all, is complacent in the extreme.

    Just because Hull finally failed does not take anything away from how hopeless our team has become without the ability to help themselves.
     
  30. J.B

    J.B First Team

    5 mins left, still possible that Hull can turn it around
     
  31. The PozzMan

    The PozzMan Squad Player

    We got more points than the relegated sides. I think we helped ourselves.
     
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  32. HELGO

    HELGO Reservist

    Now Fck off Walter
     
  33. J.B

    J.B First Team

    We got to 40 points (the widely accepted amount of points required to stay up) with a month to spare by beating teams around us. How is that not helping ourselves?
     
  34. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Reservist

    Then we can start it back up again in July, before the season kicks off
     
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  35. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    We got 40 points, and thankfully it was enough in the end. But, we had to rely on Hull failing. Had they beaten Sunderland, we may have needed another point or two, but were unable to get it. This is why we were vulnerable. If people cannot see that, or accept that point, then fair enough. I think it's a valid point of view, that many share in "the real word" but many can't see that on here.
     
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