Pozzos out

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by wfcmoog, Nov 3, 2019.

  1. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Reservist

    If I think back to when the Pozzos arrived in 2012, once the initial relief that Bas was gone had dissipated, I would have expected/hoped that they would have got Watford promoted in 3 years and that they might have been able to keep us in the PL for 5 seasons. So in that regard their achievement is about on par to me. However, I didn't expect us to have such a smart stadium.
     
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  2. Ybotcoombes

    Ybotcoombes First Year Pro

    I don’t want the Pozzos to go

    I think they are good business people and can see the value of the premier league and being in it. I think this season will have taken them by surprise and must have put them into a state of mild panick . Although it’s easy to say that we have been crying out for a striker and a new defence etc this is the first time since we have went up that we have been in the relegation zone. I think the only thing I would really criticise them for is managerial appointments , but even that you could argue up until now has been ruthlessly efficient.

    The prem is littered with financial giants (Chelsea / Man City) , con artists (man utd), owners with no interest in football (Newcastle) , rich people that don’t spend huge amounts (Arsenal / Tottenham - until recently) , at least with the pozzos they have a financial investment in the club and they win or loose with the club.

    Clearly I would swap for an Emirates (not sure about ibramavich) and would love for a billionaire fan to take us over and spend millions , but would take Pozzos over most of the Prem owners any day. Problem for Watford is we will never compete for top spot , we will never buy a player for £150m but then again neither will most of the other teams in the prem.

    out of interest i wonder how much they would loose if Watford went down (club value)
     
  3. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I think our stadium is still pretty ****. It just seems better than it is because it was dilapidated even for the champ. Aside from building a new east stand on the cheap, which looks like it's a temporary structure, the other 'improvements' are mere tinkering around the edges.
     
  4. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    It seems pretty strange to me that anybody would dislike life in the PL so much that they'd be happy for us to be relegated when our ambition would then be to have a great season in the Championship so we could get back to the place we'd just left which they didn't like.
     
  5. Hornet4ever

    Hornet4ever WFC Forums Last Man Standing Winner 2018/2019

    If you expect calm, fair & rational reasoning, you're in the wrong place.
     
  6. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    It’s almost as if the crapper we get, the more people romanticize the Championship. The reality of life at that level will likely shatter any romantic ideals relatively quickly.
     
  7. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Reservist

    Think back to what it was like in 2012, inside and out, and then tell me what we have 7 years later isn’t pretty impressive.
     
  8. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    It's better than a very **** stadium, but it's far from impressive.
     
  9. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    What would you have done instead?
     
  10. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Sold the club
     
  11. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Reservist

    The Pozzo family leaving would be disastrous for this club, we are not going to get a billionaire Arab, we have sensible owners that know football well, we are in safe hands under the Pozzos family. Frankly they have been a God send for this football club and have developed the club further than I ever thought was possible.

    If someone would have told me pre Pozzo we would have 5 seasons in the Premier League and got to an FA Cup Final, a 4 sided ground that isnt an embarrassment, and that we would be in a position to turn bids down for out best players rather than just sell cheaply to get by, it would have seemed too good to be true.
     
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2019
  12. The Recluse

    The Recluse Academy Graduate

    Looks like they're going.

    Well, looks like their involvement at Udinese could be lessening anyway as they seem to be trying to invest in another Italian side, Pordenone.

    Here's the article.
    http://sportwitness.co.uk/watford-o...tment-new-club-may-reducing-udinese-spending/

    Unlike the old days in which people bought one club and stuck to it, these days wealthy owners have their fingers in many pies.
    It’s a growing trend for owners to invest their money in several clubs and create networks across the globe.

    One such set of owners are the Pozzo family, who own Udinese in Italy and Premier League side Watford.
    At two clubs their football family is rather on the small side, and that’s something they’ve been keen to change, with their eyes on another Italian side.

    TuttoUdinese report that the Watford owners are trying to become shareholders in Italian side Pordenone but are struggling to get it over the line.
    The website claims that they were looking to get a minority shareholding in the club but, so far the shareholders at the club are refusing to pass it.

    They then explain that in reality, it is ‘difficult’ for the family to enter into the management of another club given they are already ‘engaged’ with both Watford and Udinese.
    However, that may not be the case moving forward, with the same website suggesting the Pozzo family are reducing their investment in Udinese.

    That’s at least according to Maurizio Domizzi, who currently plays for Udinese, as he hinted the family are investing less in the Italian club moving forward.
    “In the past, they have invested so much between Udinese and Watford,” he told the website.
    “I believe that a period of adjustment in which we invest less in quality is normal. They (they Pozzo family) obviously have a very precise path in their head.”
     
  13. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Would that awareness include believing the Osborne-inspired civil service prediction of exactly how much Brexit would cost over the next 30 years? And they say the Leavers lied!
     
  14. Chumlax

    Chumlax Reservist

    I mean, the leavers did lie, it's a matter of documented fact.

    You can question the exact figures produced by the civil service, but it's really just a matter of 'how much we'll lose'; there's no question of a lie. Unless you're suggesting we will somehow be financially better off in the next 30 years, in which case you'd be going against pretty much every economic forecasting tool, economist, and pretty much all of the leaders of the Brexit movement, who have often talked about 'short term pain...'. 'Short term' funnily enough apparently meaning several decades, by which point most of the people who voted for it won't even be here; the old 'Turkeys and Christmas' classic.
     
  15. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    No, turkeys don't vote for Christmas because of the short-term pain: Another misinterpretation.
    So, democracy (and old people) can **** off out the window for economic gain - would seem to be your argument.
     
  16. Chumlax

    Chumlax Reservist

    If you're talking about determining the future of the country, its economy and influence in the world for the next half a century or more at least, then it is indeed perhaps the case that the 'old people' who not only enjoyed an incredibly favourable background to grow up and establish their own lives, but won't actually be affected by the negative consequences that come from 'taking back control', should **** off to a slightly greater degree than those who it will predominantly affect, yes.

    Similarly, by the logic of the claim that 'democracy' is under threat, does that mean that we should never hold a general election again, as a party was voted into government once, so that must therefore be the 'will of the people' which we are subsequently beholden unto forevermore?

    To be perfectly honest, the suggestion that most people who did so voted for Brexit because of the prospect of long-term economic gain is ridiculous to the point of disingenuity.

    Turkeys don't vote for Christmas at all. That's the whole point of the saying. And you keep talking about misinterpretation?
     
  17. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    They don't vote for Xmas for 2 reasons;
    1/ Turkeys don't have the vote yet in 2019, and
    2/ The cancellation or not of Xmas is not subject to a vote.
     
  18. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Reservist

    Thanks for reminding me why I never visit the politics section. Now desist and leave our football forum. We need to prepare our depression and anger/delight and amazement for tomorrow night.
     
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  19. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    You honestly think we are going to get someone better? I must have missed that huge queue of potential owners who want a mediocre team from a unfashionable town with third tier level supporter numbers and no history in terms of actually winning anything.
    We are hardly a large glamour team - itll be someone like Baz or worse.

    The pozzos have made mistakes but this is still our second best period in our history, to want them gone doesnt make sense because we aint getting anyone better.
     
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  20. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Did you actually read my post? I said if they want to sell after relegation then it would be best for them to get it done quickly. Why would you want an owner who wanted out?

    If they want to stick around and rebuild then great.
     
  21. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    I may have misread then
     

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