Pozzo Love

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Loyalhornet, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. Loyalhornet

    Loyalhornet Reservist

    I need something a bit more positive today. We are facing almost certain relegation on Sunday and I'm a bit tired of all the "clubs lost it's soul" "Pozzos are evil", "this is the worst thing ever to happen to Watford", "We are the worst football club in he world" etc etc....

    Ok the Pozzos might be a bit bonkers and this season has been challenging to watch, but they've taken us on one hell of a ride and I hope there is much more and better to come.

    So this is a thread purely for writing good things about what the Poszzos have done over the last 8 years .If you've got negative comments then please save them for the many other threads that exist. You can even post nice things about Giraldi here if you can think of any. I'd really like to restore some of my faith back in my fellow supporters, amongst all the hysteria. I guess if no one else posts on here that will be quite telling


    I'll start:

    I am proud of the way the club dealt with the Corona crisis. Offering the ground to be used by the NHS, not furloughing staff and initially supporting Deeney when he had genuine concerns for his young baby.
     
  2. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    People get greedy. The more success you have, the more is expected. We were a rubbish Championship club, before the Pozzos took over. People say they want to go back to that ! Everyone wants a scapegoat, for this season- let’s blame Deeney, Pozzo’s etc. Personally I think the positive is that he may realign supporters expectation. A par performance is 15th in the Championship, anything above that is success.
     
  3. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    The counter argument you will hear is that no one minds going down to the Championship, of course we don't, had we done so heroically and following genuine attempts to plug evident holes in the squad. I suspect, however, that had we tried to plug the holes with expensive and experienced players and then went down (as has happened to many clubs in the past) people would be livid with the waste of money on 'journeymen', rather than say 'well done, good effort'.

    Our time may have run out and for us this is what it looks like. For Stoke, Sunderland, West Brom, Fulham, Norwich etc it looked a bit different.
     
  4. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    Yes. The hope is that we haven’t over-spent and with same sales and moving some players, we can be financial stable. We could have spent big on absolute rubbish, and be in a bigger mess. Hopefully we will have a more youthful team next year, that can have a stab at the play-offs.
     
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  5. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Gino and Co. have done a good job from bringing us to be big time and we are/were an established premiership side. We still could be Sunday afternoon. At any rate, there have been massive faults levied at their "world class scouting network". What I never understand about it, they scout a great talent who we hear about and get excited to see. Then they loan them out to another club till they get good and sell them for assets. Ok not every single one has turned that way, but how is that supposed to help Watford develop on the pitch when any new assets are sold off to make a profit?

    I do respect what they have done for the club off the pitch - we have probably one of the best pitches in the premiership and our ground looks very nice. Hospitality as never been better and the overall look of the club from an
    outside prospective is much grander than it was a few years ago. What is killing all the kudos is Geraldhi. We have gone on and on about how much as fans, we despise his presence at the club. He more or less is the manager. He
    hand picks transfer dealings, more or less picks the team and formation and has the ability to change it at will. It is no wonder NP got fed up with it. Why come into a club with a reputation of getting clubs out of danger only for
    the reigns to be taken off you when you are almost clear?
     
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  6. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    They fixed the hole in the Rookery roof that for many years had dripped water on me whenever it rained. I will always be grateful to them for that
     
  7. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    5 years in the Premier League, possibly more
    An FA Cup semi final win only achieved once before against a third division side
    Some memorable moments, Brighton away, Leicester, Liverpool twice
    Almen Abdi
    A ground we can be proud of
    Some very good players that I never would have thought I would see
    The naming of the two stands
    What they did during lockdown for the NHS
    Would like to know what they thought would happen this season but in general they've been a success
     
  8. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    They have done the ground up nicely and do a lot of good things in the community.

    Unfortunately lost focus on improving the on field stuff which means those nice corporate areas won't be filled.
     
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  9. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    They have done so much for Watford FC, and lets remember the Premier League ride is NOT over yet.........

    THE 'ORNS ARE STAYING UP
     
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  10. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Another example of them destroying the club's character. :mad:
     
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  11. ForzaWatford

    ForzaWatford Squad Player

    When I first starting watching Watford in Brendon's first season, the best we could hope for was mid-table in the championship. We were an unfashionable team with no money, a **** stadium, **** infrastructure and we relied on poor academy players and loans. I never thought i'd see Watford in the PL when I started going.

    Had we continued in that vain I think we'd have ended up like Ipswich. Instead we got 5 years of PL football, an FA cup final, wins against all the big clubs (bar City), improved training facilities and a stadium that i'm proud of. People use Granada to show there is life after the Pozzo's but with a club like us, we're only ever a Bassini away from complete collapse. This season has been rubbish, but the grass isn't always greener. We will always be a small fish in the PL, regardless of our owner.
     
  12. Loyalhornet

    Loyalhornet Reservist

    I might also add that the Graham Taylor statue , and naming of the two main stands after Watford legends demonstrated that they respect the history of the club .

    The ‘for Nic , for promotion’ campaign was also a very human reaction , hardly soulless .
     
  13. Harrybassetthater

    Harrybassetthater Academy Graduate

    I fear we will be relegated on Sunday because of the sacking of Pearson without a reason being published. This has turned the whole football world against us and every neutral fan will be wanting us to go down and will see it as justice. I think by keeping his cards close to his chest Pozzo has made a monumental mistake.
     
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  14. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    The only way it will have an impact is if it affects how Arsenal, WH and Everton play, which I very much doubt. Every fan may well want is to go down, but that doesn’t mean it will happen because of it.
     
  15. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Gives the players an excuse as well .

    All the ex players say it will affect their focus and moral.

    Well that has been missing for most of the season !
     
  16. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Please take note of #1 post on this thread BEFORE POSTING ANYTHING ON HERE PLEASE :rolleyes:
     
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  17. Not many people know this but the Pozzos built a laser on the moon to protect the earth from asteroids
     
  18. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    We could've ended up with another owner like the Russo's or Bassini. In a parallel universe we're scrapping away in League 1 or League 2 in a crumbling stadium.

    Off the pitch they've kept it touch with our history with the GT statue and the Elton John stand, another owner may have never been interested in either.

    Some cracking memories from the promotion season and that first season where it was all really unexpected.

    The absolute scenes when Vydra scored that 2nd goal against Brighton and then watching us get promoted in a pub in Brighton with hundreds of other Watford fans.

    Reids shitting himself in public at Brentford. Probably would've happened anyway.
     
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  19. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    And are leading the Oxford University research into a vaccine for Covid-19.
     
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  20. Ybotcoombes

    Ybotcoombes Justworkedouthowtochange

    I don’t know what happened , not many do, but most of the pundits I have heard have indicated that Pearson had a falling out and was dealt with. I have actually been quite surprised by the lack of “what the hell are Watford doing” reports.

    As for Pozzos , took us to the premiership , we have seen some great football at times and some great performance and some memorable players (not always for the right reason) , who can forget the Amrabat or Britos being sent off with his first kick of the game ,the highs and lows of Holebas , Rich and Sarr on Fire , or Watford 4 Chelsea 1

    Two things I won’t miss, the twice yearly kicking by city and the ridiculous TV commentary that goes with playing in the prem, i lost count on Tuesday of how many times they pointed out we keep getting stuffed.
     
  21. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Hmm.. not seen that on BBC or Talksport where they seem to think we are only going down because we have sacked Pearson .
     
  22. I heard that Gino puts a can of beans into the food bank donation trolley at the supermarket every week, but to make sure no one finds out he puts on a ginger beard disguise
     
  23. Loyalhornet

    Loyalhornet Reservist

    Was this reported in the athletic ?
     
  24. Loyalhornet

    Loyalhornet Reservist

    Cos it must be true if it is
     
  25. Ybotcoombes

    Ybotcoombes Justworkedouthowtochange

    well what do you expect linker and radio station full of tossers :) I used to listen to talksport a lot (commute to work) but the idiot in the afternoon absolutely hates Watford (and Arsenal)

    I thought commentary (can’t remember if sky or BT) before the Man City game was fairly reasoned about the incident, I’m sure they made reference to a bust up in the dressing room leading to Pearson’s dismissal
     
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  26. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    Thank you pozzo family. You made our little club vibrant and relevent again. We've gained international support now plus made Arsenal and Man United fans hate us as we seem to do well against them.

    You saved our club and I don't doubt we will learn from this season and go again.
     
  27. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    That is true - Lineker is a Pearson fan and Durham is a shock jock.
     
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  28. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    Liked for "shock jock". Don't think I've heard that since the 1980s.
     
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  29. Gino's ringtone is z-cars.

    Giraldi personally goes down to Tesco every weekend to direct traffic in the horrendous bottleneck.

    The club have funded numerous events to save the Horns pub.

    The Kingswood estate was almost bulldozed to make way for an M25 multicomplex service station until the Pozzo's stepped in.

    HS2 is believed to be going past the ground now due to serious influence from the club on the government to adjust their route.
     
  30. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Gino does deserve all the credit for getting Watford into the Premier League and he has done very well in keeping us there, by hook or by crook.

    However, the board have made horrendous mistakes this season, one after another, and this has accumulated in Watford being just 90 minutes from relegation with only a long shot of staying up.

    I still believe we will stay up somehow, however, if we do go down then I think there will be a big backlash from supporters towards the owner.

    On the surface it looks like sheer incompetence to sack Pearson with just two games to go. How can that be justified? He can only justify it if we stay up, if we go down he'll be open to huge criticism.

    Would Pearson have got anything from these two games? We'll never know, but the size of defeat was huge and costly against City. I would feel a lot more confident going in against Arsenal with Pearson and Shakespeare behind the scenes.

    But they've put us in this position and have weakened us for sure. Mullins and Stack are good coaches, but they do not have the experience to navigate this. How could they? You need someone who has the experience of being successful in these high pressure situations, which Pearson has been.

    To sack him, without any explanation given, will never play out well. It looks like they do not know what they are doing at boardroom level.

    Personally, I do not feel there is any reason that can justify sacking an experienced manager and replacing him with a couple of inexperienced coaches, especially as we're on the brink of relegation. Sheer lunacy.
     
  31. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Pozzo's are generally excellent owners who've had a nightmare this season.

    Given a lot to the club, but some bad decisions have come back on them this season.
     
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