Points Progress 17/18

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Davidmsawyer, Aug 12, 2017.

  1. Davidmsawyer

    Davidmsawyer Statto Statto Statto

    That could prove to be a very useful point...

    The current position is:
    • 1 point worse than this time last year (26 vs 27). This is 2 point worse than after the last game.
    • 6 points better than the comparable fixtures last year (26 vs 20). This is 1 points better than after the last game.
    • 2 points better than the '40 point' line (26 vs 24). This is the same as after the last game
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  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky First Year Pro

    Creeping our way to safety through the second half of the season, it's the Watford way.
     
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  3. Sting

    Sting Squad Player

    After 23 games, for the first time we have less points this season than in either of the previous two
     
  4. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way.
     
  5. Jossy

    Jossy Reservist

    The first half yesterday left me feeling comfortably numb
     
  6. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Wish you were here, Joka.
     
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  7. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Do you think we've hit the wall?
     
  8. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    About time we all breathe, pull together as it’s not us and them , and hope for a money injection.
     
  9. foxywfc

    foxywfc Reservist

    At half time of the Leicester game I was looking at the fixture list really wondering where we will achieve some more points and was looking bleak until Muff end of march and then it would be depending on there situation. Well now with the new boss syndrome to kick in we will be in the 5th round of the cup and have 3 more points by the time we next play at home. COYH
     
  10. Davidmsawyer

    Davidmsawyer Statto Statto Statto

    Slightly late, but here is the update after Silva's last game. From best to worst in a couple of months...

    The current position is:
    • 4 points worse than this time last year (26 vs 30). This is 3 points worse than after the last game.
    • 6 points better than the comparable fixtures last year (26 vs 20). This is the same as after the last game
    • 1 point better than the '40 point' line (26 vs 25). This is 1 point worse than after the last game.
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  11. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Interesting that the lines cross where QSF had his purple patch and we had our terrible run with Silva. I remember how panicked we were in the NY when it all tailed off with QSF, little did we know we’d be in a far worse position 2 seasons later.
     
  12. Sting

    Sting Squad Player

    There are two reasons to be optimistic in all this 1) we are 6 points ahead against comparable teams than last year and 2) we have got rid of Mr "I don't care any more"
     
  13. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    True but in that season we picked up 12 points in the next 6 games. Stoke & Ham are must wins imho.
     
  14. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Since QSF left we've invested £130 mill+ into the playing squad and we're still worse now than we were in the first season!
     
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  15. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Always assuming nobody else has got any better...
     
  16. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I know it seems like that, but we have progressed in certain areas. The midfield is a lot better than the first season.

    Where we've not improved is up front and in defence. Ok that's 2/3rds of the side, but Cleverley, Hughes, Chalobah, Pereyra, Kiko, Richarlison are uplifts on anything we had under QFS.

    Where we had better under QFS was at left back. Ake was better in this position than anyone we managed to sign since. Ighalo was better than any striker we've had since, but that was only until his form faded.

    Some players have regressed. Janmaat, Capoue, Watson, Britos, Prodl, Holebas. Some players have just been disappointing Sinclair, Zeegelaar and Success.

    We've signed some good players and we have improved the squad, but we now have a lot of faded stars, injured crocks and disappointments. It's those declining players that are causing the problems.

    It's strange, but our crap players seem to be the ones that do not get the injuries.
     
  17. brinnyboy1985

    brinnyboy1985 First Year Pro

    Good post
     
  18. Davidmsawyer

    Davidmsawyer Statto Statto Statto

    We are just keeping our heads above the water...

    The current position is:
    • 3 points worse than this time last year (27 vs 30). This is 1 points better than after the last game.
    • 7 points better than the comparable fixtures last year (27 vs 20). This is 1 points better than after the last game.
    • 1 point better than the '40 point' line (27 vs 26). This is the same as after the last game
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  19. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Spoken like a true poetic soul
     
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  20. Davidmsawyer

    Davidmsawyer Statto Statto Statto

    Wow! I didn't see that coming at 1-1, what a team performance.


    The current position is:
    • 1 point worse than this time last year (30 vs 31). This is 2 point better than after the last game.
    • 10 points better than the comparable fixtures last year (30 vs 20). This is 3 points better than after the last game.
    • 3 points better than the '40 point' line (30 vs 27). This is 2 points better than after the last game.
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  21. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    The comparable team thing is interesting. I wonder how that'll look at the end of the season.
     
  22. Sting

    Sting Squad Player

    These graphs are amazing. We got half our points total of last year - 20 - from the fixtures still to come. Imagine that we achieved the exact same results this year - we would end on a record 50 points. What a difference a game makes
     
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  23. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Interesting thing about the comparable fixtures graph is that under QSF we started bad and finished well , if that makes sense !
     
  24. Sting

    Sting Squad Player

    Except that the comparable fixtures were in a totally different order so the last 12 games this year were spread over the season. It is only the other graph that simply takes games in chronological order.
     
  25. Johnny Todd Sings

    Johnny Todd Sings First Year Pro

    Imagine if we got half our points in the remaining fixtures again. That would be 30 out of a possible 36.
     
  26. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    I am so confident we are staying up I'm going to share this pic from Craven Cottage when we won the league!

    We gonna party like its 1998!!!!

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  27. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Perhaps Im being whooshed but just in case... Yes, I am aware how the comparable fixtures graphs works.
     
  28. Sting

    Sting Squad Player

    No -not a whooosh but we may be at crossed purposes. To say we started bad and finished well can only relate to the order we played the games - and that is not the comparable fixtures chart. I could agree with a different statement like "if under QSF the games had been in the order we played them this year then ......." It just happens that in the same games as our last 12 games this year we got 20 points ....
    Are we misunderstanding each other?
     
  29. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    I think so . You re over estimating my ability to make an intelligent observation, Sting.

    I was just reflecting on the irony of how the points accumulation on the comparable fixture chart was inversely related to the real season.
     
  30. Sting

    Sting Squad Player

    You are one of my favourite contributors but I plead old age and sometimes I get confused so have to check my understanding.
     
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  31. Beekayess

    Beekayess Reservist

    I do find these graphs interesting & useful.

    They appeal to my mathematical bent.
     
  32. Sting

    Sting Squad Player

    Is a mathematical bent a graph? :)
     
  33. Beekayess

    Beekayess Reservist

  34. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    I think we re both in the same boat there.
     
  35. Davidmsawyer

    Davidmsawyer Statto Statto Statto

    The current position is:
    • 1 point worse than this time last year (30 vs 31). This is the same as after the last game.
    • 7 points better than the comparable fixtures last year (30 vs 23). This is 3 points worse than after the last game.
    • 2 points better than the '40 point' line (30 vs 28). This is 1 points worse than after the last game.
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