1. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Anyone know much about it? Saw some seeds online, has anybody grown it? Has anybody ever drunk some peyote tea? What are the effects? Will I be reunited with my spirit animal again?
     
  2. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Dismal failure. Never manages to catch that rude bird.
     
  3. Stevohorn

    Stevohorn Watching Grass Grow

    Your more likely to be reunited with the local constabulary, as i believe peyote is a controlled substance.
     
  4. Saw him play for Mexico against Australia in 1980 at the SCG. Wasn't impressed - like the plant that takes his name, he looked small and spineless. Too old to sign now anyway.
     
  5. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Nope it's plant. (catii are bloody hard to grow from seed - I seem to remember that most seeds need to be refrigerated for a while before germination). Much the same as 'shrooms and opium poppies you can grown them BUT harvest or "process" them in anyway whatsoever then it's a class A substance...
     
  6. Stevohorn

    Stevohorn Watching Grass Grow

    Cyaninternetdog was talking about making peyote tea and the "effects" of that.
    He wasn't talking of admiring the plant on a horticultural level. So what he was talking about is a controlled substance.
     
  7. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    And your point is? Its only controlled to stop us seeing beyond the veil.
     
  8. Stevohorn

    Stevohorn Watching Grass Grow

    My point was that it's not just a plant if you do what you are intending to do with it.
     
  9. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    It tastes bitter in tea.

    Powdered it is a class A drug. As a cactus or dried disk it is, somewhat surprisingly, legal.
    Mescaline is a rather dirty drug interacting with a number of neuroreceptors. Its hallucinogenic effects are probably mediated via Serotonin receptor affinity in the prefrontal cortex.
    It would be difficult to get the right dose or even know the dose you were getting from a plant.
    Use of mescaline can have long term negative impacts on your mental health (The hallucinations can persist even after you stop use). You also risk flashbacks, anxiety and psychosis in the long term.

    Id give it a pass
     
  10. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    I remember the best tutorial I ever attended. Someone asked the prof how to avoid a bad LSD trip. He reckoned it was due to low serotonin levels, gave a fantastic talk on serotonin receptors and the role and "helpfully pointed out" that serotonin levels were found to be very high 8 hrs after MDMA ingestion - his clnclusion was taking LSD at the end of an 'e' comedown.
     
  11. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    drugs are bad. mmkay
     
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  12. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Your warning is noted though it sounds like an extra spoon of sugar will probably do the trick.
     
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  13. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Mary Poppins knew what she was talking about.
     
  14. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Looking at mescaline's structure I imagine (like LSD) it would be tasteless - the bitterness would come from all the crap in the cactus. Incidentally, I seem to remember one of the shops in Crew's Hill specialised in cacti - they would probably stock peyote and their staff are extremely knowledgeable on other cacti (there are are "brain" cacti loaded with LSA).

    FWIW: A small group of us scientists/mathematicians/engineers at Canterbury used to occasionally take hallucinogens (LSD, DMT, LSA/morning glory and 'shrooms). 30 odd years on it doesn't seem to have affected us that much (other than the fact none of us became big swingin' ****s in the City and all of us are "doctored" - make of that what you will).
     
  15. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    I beg to differ, Bwood.
     
  16. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    No, no, no. I've always been both a smart-arse and extremely bitter.
     
  17. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    I ate a mezcal worm once. Disappointing.
     
  18. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    I am planning on sending some peyote brew to the house of commons, get a couple of hundred joints going round also. I know this will make them all realise what they are doing there is pointless with the endless party divides. Get them all see the fractals and geometric shapes beyond the veil and see the truth that we are all one and need to be working together. Just thinking about it I have a tear in my eye as it would be beautiful and change our country forever.
     
  19. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Have you thought about sending this suggestion to John Bercow - it can't have any worse effect on parliament's decsion making process judging by their current form.
     
  20. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    More likely they'll sit around doing nothing.

    Actually they won't **** anything up then. Good idea.
     
  21. reids

    reids First Team

    Whilst I'm not a scientist, surely the opposite would be true? Wouldn't you actually be low on serotonin after finishing an MDMA session, hence the comedown?
     
  22. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    I just listened to the theory - I never put it into practice. It's probably changed now with MRI, but then the only way of measuring the brain's serotonin levels was physically opening someone's head, taking a sample and analysing it. TBTH I think it's cobblers and that a "bad trip" is analogous to the "...the two pint fighting wonder..." as, from what I remember, a "bad trip" or "flashback" was never (and has never been) an issue with anyone in my crowd.

    My knowledge of the area is so ancient that it might be better answered by some of the recent medic/vet/pharma grads on here as I think their courses would have given them much greater exposure to pharmacology than I ever had.

    Oddly enough, I do remember the same prof (of molecular structure) being exceptionally anti-ganja.
     
  23. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Personally I don't understand why anyone would want to risk messing about with their brain chemistry just to feel good for a bit. Even if there's a negligible risk (although there is debate about that) it's just not worth that risk in my book.

    In the same vein whist I like a beer I don't like to be drunk. Mind you with the shocking hangovers I get these days even on only a couple of pints I think my drinking days might be numbered.
     
  24. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    I might do actually, I can imagine the scenes on the comedown when they are all smiling and hugging with tears in their eyes saying to each other " What have we been doing?" It's gonna be beautiful.
     
  25. Pob

    Pob Reservist

    Yeah I naively tried this too many years ago in the hope of a hit. It was so disgusting that I razzed the worm up onto the hairy carpet of a teepee I found myself in. I was so desperate that I picked the worm out of my razz and ate it again. I didn’t get any affect other than a lasting loss of self esteem.

    I reckon Cyan ID should go for it and maybe have a live shoutbox session to see how he goes.
     
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  26. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    Must be honest here, I just swallowed the damm thing whole. No way could I bring myself to chewing it.
     
  27. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    FYI

     
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  28. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    As are your posts.
     
  29. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    She did. Permanently drugged up to her eyeballs mind you.
     

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