November Werewolf - Day Two

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Lynching - Day Two

  1. Horace Goes North

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  2. WFCSinatra

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  3. HappyHornet24

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  4. Nornironhorn

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  5. Otter

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  6. Burnsy

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  7. Cthulhu

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  8. Ashdon

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  9. Cassettis Beard

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  10. Lowerrous

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  11. Moog

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  1. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    Agreed, wolves could then pick players off at will using their messages so they don't target each other.
     
  2. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Pretty confident that is the wolf's message, unless our back-up seer is for some reason trying to copy the seer's style.
     
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  3. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Agreed? Feels too transparent a move.
     
  4. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Whoever wrote that has some sense of humour.
     
  5. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    This. Not sure we’re any better off until we have the second message to sit alongside it. We now have two different styles of message naming Burnsy, one as good, one as evil.
     
  6. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Heading off for a bit (although will be pretty early to the funeral so can maybe catch up on my phone).

    Will be back with plenty of time to vote, contribute, etc.
     
  7. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Will wait for a second message.
     
  8. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Either the wolf named Burnsey as good yesterday and evil today

    Or

    The wolf named Burnsey as good and the Seer named Burnsey as evil today

    Or

    The Seer named Burnsey as good yesterday and the Wolf named him as evil today


    The wolf doesn't know who the other wolf is, so they risk killing their fellow wolf or traitor, unless they know that Burnsey was named good yesterday by the seer.

    We are 90% certain that our seer from yesterday is dead, so if this is a Seer, its most likely someone new.
     
  9. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    It seems they've used the same bolding style as the second message yesterday, which most seemed to suspect was the wolf (bolding just the 'good' 'evil' part of the message along with the name of the person).

    Could this have been a mistake by the wolf today?

    We still need a second message really.
     
  10. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    wait for a second message. Surely we have a back up seer this early in the game.
     
  11. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Obviously, you only have my word for it - but I am definitely good so todays message is definitely not from the seer.
     
  12. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Second message:

    Konnichiwa villagers,

    No doubt we're all reeling from the nights activities but I'm your new seer.

    I've decided not to copy the rhyming style of yesterday as that will only confuse matters but waited a little later to let the EVIL wolf play their hand first.

    Based on one of nismans last few posts yesterday I decided to view Cassettis Beard to follow up on his theory.

    Cassettis beard is GOOD.

    Good luck my fellow Villagers.
     
  13. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    As I see it

    We have Two messages today one naming Burnsy as Evil, one naming CB as good.
    We have a second Seer.

    Probably going to be lots of theories as to which message is which.
    In my mind Nisman (Seer) was the first nursery rhyme message yesterday as he questioned the validity of the second message. Also for some reason I had a strong gut feeling when I read it that it was Nisman

    Today first message is a rhyme (but not quite as literate as yesterdays) I feel this is the wolf attempting to say he gave the first message yesterday. I don't think that is true.
    The second message has given a some reasoning and produced a GOOD - seems more likely to be the new back up seer
    The back up seer copying the rhyming style would have been confusing

    I think the wolf has named Burnsy
    But in these situations where one person is named good and one evil you almost always know where the voting is going

    I still think its the young grimey music people we should be going after

    Also what about the solitary vote for noniron yesterday?????
     
  14. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    I think first message is the wolf. If it was the seer, the wolf would probably name another random player as evil to try to deflect attention from Burnsy. There is one thing I wish the back up seer had done in their message today that would have confirmed it for me. It’s something that is missing from first message and I thought, if it appeared in second message, would confirm that message as the seer’s. It’s not a clue but just info that is useful. Won’t say any more than that.
     
  15. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    I think the first message is the wolf too as the chances of getting a Seer then a Wolf is too unlikely. Doesn’t help on who to vote for though mind.


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  16. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Ok, now we have both messages I can share the 'clue' I noticed.

    Yesterday's first message:

    When nisman was being killed, he said:

    I'm pretty confident then that nisman wrote the first message yesterday saying moog was good.

    This means the wolf probably missed that clue and they decided to try and follow the 'seer's' style by writing in nursery rhymes. This is exactly what I wanted to happen and why I decided against discussing this clue earlier.

    So, based on the above, I believe moog is good as is CB.

    Burnsy has been named as both good and evil by the wolf, but all we can take from that is that he is unlikely to be the alpha. The alpha won't know the beta or traitor (if there is one) so burnsy is not in the clear.
     
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  17. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

  18. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Chances are the first message is the wolf and Burnsy isn't evil, but who else is there to vote for? At least with Burnsy we might still learn something for sure.

    Horace has been pretty quiet though.
     
  19. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

  20. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    If Burnsy is the Alpha it would be showing some unfeasibly large gonads.
     
  21. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I'd be pretty confident he isn't! Could be beta or traitor though but I don't believe he has been viewed.
     
  22. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I'm going to have to vote before 4pm today
     
  23. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Ahh well I have to admit I missed that, but it does back up my view that yesterday’s first message was nisman’s. In which case moog is good. I agree that the second one is likely the seer’s today.

    I don’t really want to lynch Burnsy today as I think, although he is not cleared, he is more likely good than evil and, if we are right about the wolf naming him, he is certainly not the alpha.
     
  24. Sorry, I've not had a lot of time to get in and concentrate today as looking after the little one.

    Also tagging isn't working.

    I'd hate to lunch burnsy if we think message 1 is good. But feels a bit silly not too to establish the day one messages.

    Otherwise I guess it's a random which feels like the wrong thing to do.
     
  25. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Very flimsy logic but I'm going to have to vote early and I'm going for Cthulhu.

    I'm confident the message yesterday from the wolf was the one that included the Stormzy lyric. It was Cthulhu who then started to go through people's ages and suggest it was a younger poster that wrote that message.

    There is a chance he may have written it himself and was trying to plant a seed that the wolf was one of the younger players.

    As I say, paper thin logic but I have nothing else to go on.

    I don't think CB/Moog are evil based on the write-up clue.

    If we have a traitor, I think there is a 2/9 chance Burnsy is evil as I don't think he is the alpha.

    The rest of us have a 3/9 chance of being evil so I'm ignoring Burnsy for now.
     
  26. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Given how many good we have lost already, lynching me will lose us one more and then we really will be in trouble! All it will tell you is that the first message is from a wolf - but I think the sensible among us have realised that already!
     
  27. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Hmm. Saying you are 'good' is exactly what you would do if you were a wolf!
     
  28. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Well I’m hardly going to say the opposite either am I!

    Whilst I agree it would be a cunning swerve to name myself as bad, I’m a relative newcomer to the game and am certainly not skilled enough at it yet to make such a bold move!
     
  29. Cthulhu has probably been one of the more vocal of the villagers so far which is uncommon for a wolf (but doesn't mean they wouldn't be).

    Your second point of them pointing fingers is also a bit uncommon wolf-like behaviour isn't it?

    So you may be right but it is flimsy as you say.
     
  30. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Only the true Messiah denies his divinity
     
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  31. Can someone post the 4 messages so far all together? Hard for me as on mobile?
     
  32. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Noniron has voted for me.

    I can’t see a reason to vote for me.
    I am of course the one who is suggesting we go after a younger player
     
  33. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Right back at you noniron. You’ve been slinging a lot of mud today.
    You fit my wolf demographic, J’accuse
     
  34. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    I also drew attention again today to the fact you had that solitary vote yesterday noniron. Is that the reason to try to bump me off?
     
  35. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I have to vote now as otherwise I'll forget.
     
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