Discussion in 'Match Day' started by Cthulhu, Nov 4, 2019.
You're right. He now identifies as a saucepan lid.
He scored a vital second goal. That's his job. To score goals. Cause havoc in their defence when down to 10 men never easy for anyone.
I think you can get resin for that.
Enjoyable game, relatively speaking. I’m going to make the most of it, as it is a rare experience. Long way to go, but we have some hope now. It has to have a massive impact on the mood and confidence within the club. Deeney back in might also give a lift.
Well, yes; hard to argue with you. But he did one thing nobody else* at the club does: As Deleufeu made the pass he got 'across' the defender for the goal.
* I'm hoping Wellbeck and Sarr might eventually pitch in with some of this, too.
Then at 10 v 11 he should've come off as he put us in more trouble then not. In times when we need battlers he's not a battler.
Thanks for everyone’s kind words in the Shoutbox during my brief appearance tonight.
Can’t say I’ll be posting regularly again for a while for the reasons given - but me and the wife really will get through this. I’ve perhaps not felt Watford’s recent struggles as deeply as others here due to our circumstances - but F*ck me, tonight has felt like the first night I’ve smiled in weeks. More of that please.
He scored yes. Against a better team his many mistakes would've cost us. And we needed someone a lot stronger to ease the pressure at the other end.
I rarely go against our players but he is a liability. I said it last game.
He isn't a lone striker and we need to stop trying to make him one. The one thing he had - pace - seems to be non existent suddenly... Or all defenders are suddenly all quicker than him.
Hope all is well and the issues are sorted positively.
Textbook away performance, fairplay Quique!
It should have been far more comfortable, the lack of confidence and a horrendous lack of passing options meant we invited pressure on ourselves too often. If he's staying then he needs to work on finding this balance he's going on about in the next two weeks because we won't play a team worse than Norwich this season.
But **** it, well done Quique and well done to the players. Let's hope this is the start of our season and we kick on. COYH
I can tell you're a fan.
It's a relief to finally win, but I'm not going to get carried away by it. Norwich are a typical newly promoted club. Pick up a few early points then fade. They will finish in the bottom three comfortably.
We need a massive improvement in order to pull away from the bottom three. But we took advantage of a poor opponent, scored from our only two shots on target and battled well. Tonight it went for us, although I thought QSF should have predicted a second yellow for Kabs. As soon as he was booked after 48 minutes, I'd have taken him off. He was in clumsy mode tonight and I was hoping Flores would have substituted him for Mapps. Luckily it didn't cost us in the end.
I've been critical of Flores, but we are harder to score against now. It worked against the likes of Norwich and maybe some of the other lesser sides, but we really need to offer more of an attacking threat. If you score the first goal against us, we're sunk. That has to change. However, if we can somehow get to January in touch with 17th place, then maybe, just maybe, we can bring in a few players (probably on loan) who could really improve us.
I like Flores, but I think he's made some silly mistakes. Today we won and I really hope that brings a lot of belief back to the team. We should be so much better than we are right now.
Sadly it’s beyond that. My wife miscarried so a long road ahead. Won’t go into it as tonight is positive and this isn’t the place at all! But guess I should say for the benefit of those who didn’t see the brief appearance on the shoutbox and might wonder what I’m talking about.
Grateful for WFC tonight for sure!
34% possession, 2 shots on target, down to 10 men, Key team member off injured. Win 2-0.
Sort of feels like I've lost my virginity again tonight
Not sure what her grandfather Noel would be saying about her performance!
I want to be. I really do. I see something in him. I think he can add something to the team but not how QSF is currently setting us up.
He can't lead the line, misses too many chances and has little composure in front of goal for this league.
Maybe as a 2 with Troy picking up the scraps he can poach a few goals. But at this level we need so much more now.
Didn't see your shoutbox post but whatever the issue is, I wish you all the best. I'd noticed you hadn't been around.
So who do we want to win tomorrow between Saints and Neverton? Probably a draw will be best, but I'd laugh if Southampton win. If they win then Southampton, Everton and Villa will all be in reach on 11 points.
We have to beat Burnley now though or else tonight will mean very little.
At least we've beaten a team Man City lost to......revenge is sweet.
Ighalo at least kept it up half a season.
Really sorry to hear that Burnsy, it really does bring into perspective how unimportant football is compared to real life matters, but if in some way it can provide even a hint of happiness in the worst of times, it’s doing the job we’re all here for, as fans.
I can’t comprehend how difficult it is what you’re going through right now but my thoughts and wishes are with you and your wife.
Everton to win their next two games, followed by three straight defeats. As to tonight. Gray scores despite being a terrrible player, and if does score another ten goals this season he will be a more important player this season than Welbeck or Sarr. Thought Holebas played well. Hopefully the international break will see more players regaining fitness, and a determination to start climbing our way out of the relegation zone. Nine matches before the third round of the FA Cup. Would it be too greedy to hope for at least 12 points from 27?
What exactly are you expecting? Home games against 19th, 18th, 17th and 16th? That would be unrealistic, to say the least!
Realistically, at this level there's almost always going to be at least one tricky match in any string of games. That doesn't mean we don't have a kind run of fixtures and it's as good as we can hope for. 3 very winnable games and 1 tough game is very reasonable (and one of those games is against a team around us so we have the opportunity to gain points at the expense of a fellow struggler).
Very sorry to hear that. I know how it is. My missus had multiple miscarriages (8). It's a bereavement every time, and you need to allow yourself the space to be bereaved. IMHO too often people try to be too positive by saying you have time to try again. As if this is a repairable event. It maybe be true and hopefully you will both enjoy a new life in your lives. But it is important to have that space to be very sad together, to talk it through and not to deflect the loss.
Surely that's got to take some pressure off the players now. Must have been a serious mental weight to be just about the only team in the universe to not have got a win yet.
Hopefully they can play with a little more freedom and confidence now... Especially if we can follow this up with a win v Burnley.
Foster did not have a convincing start to the season but is looking back to normal.
We do generally look solid with this five man defence... But my god kabasele is frustrating with these red cards or stupid penalties he seems to give away every few games. He generally pretty good otherwise. Luckily didn't cost us today.
Something was going wrong down our right flank between janmaat and kabasele first half and a better team would have punished us. Seemed to be better 2nd half.
Capoue is so important for us, and it's good to see docuoure finding some more form. He is so good when firing on all cylinders.
The more deulofeu can have matches like today, the better.
Gray... Was Gray. It wasn't his worst match and it was an important goal he got. I suspect I have a more positive opinion of him than most but I still acknowledge his limitations. Had to laugh at his chip attempt. Deeney should be a better fit when he's back after the international break.
How amazing is it to be sat here with 3 points before the weekend's even really begun. Fair play to QSF and team tonight. But this is just the first step in our almighty comeback and we HAVE to follow up with a win v Burnley.
I wasn’t on shoutbox so no idea of the situation you’re in but sounds like you’re having a tough time. My best wishes to you and the wife and hopefully the football gave you something to smile about
Season starts here.
Now why would I do a thing like that?
He's basically a left-sided Adama Traore.
Long time since I've been that excited, and tense at a game (Kabasele swings from brilliant to buffoon). Lot of committment out there tonight. We have players with faults and limitations, that's how it is.... don't see the point in being too negative. QSF is probably not the man long term, but there was some passion out there tonight from the players.
Finally a win an still you ***** s aren't happy. Suck my throbber you ***in whoppers
QSF’s reign has been very similar to his first, turgid and cagey, lots of draws and it took a few games to get our first win if I remember correctly?
The difference this time is that he took a bit longer because he took over a group of players whose confidence was completely shot, hopefully this will do them the world of good.
He’s a boring, defensive manager, but I’m inclined to give him time. There was a wobbly article where he said we should trust him and we will gradually transition into a more attacking style of play. He needed to stop the rot and he’s done exactly that.
When your team is struggling you’re never going to be happy however you play, but personally I found it soul destroying to be letting in at least two cheap goals every game. At least now we are always in games and never giving ourselves a mountain to climb.
At the moment we seem nervous to loose the ball so end up passing backwards and losing it anyway, hopefully winning a game will give us a bit more confidence to go forward and not worry as much about an attack breaking down.
he’s not necessarily what any of us wanted, but all things considered unfortunately I think he was exactly what we needed.
Keep it tight at the back and hope the front two do something, where have we seen that before?
Can't complain too much as that was a much needed win.
Performances aside, I said last week after Muff, we actually weren't getting any luck either. Nothing was falling for us and no defensive errors. Well, last night we did get some.
An error after a minute led to the first, and a deflection helped for the second, and things went for us at the back too. Both bits of luck came, though, were accompanied by some excellent play from us.
We've played both better and worse than last night, but sometimes you just need a bit of luck to make the difference.
But, wow! Delefoo is infuriating, but we are nothing without him at the moment.
I think he's put Leicester on "ignore" along with me.
I remember Dyche mostly as a central defender, but maybe he played a few games out wide as a dribbling attacker.