Newell charged after female jibe

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Defunct, Dec 6, 2006.

  1. Defunct

    Defunct First Team

    Luton boss Mike Newell is charged by the FA with improper conduct after comments made towards referee's assistant Amy Raynor.

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  2. Big Dave Airey

    Big Dave Airey Reservist

    Deserves him right.

    In the politically correct world we live in he won't get away with that.
     
  3. jobr

    jobr Squad Player

    Why has it taken so long to charge the tool?

    don't pi$$ around with fines or touchline bans that don't hurt the club or individual, only one punishment is correct in this instance a 25 point deduction should suffice.
     
  4. wfchornet2

    wfchornet2 The Prodigal mod

    25 points??? automatic relegation to league 2 would be my punishment for him and luton for employing such a morally abject man (use the term man loosely) ;)
     
  5. jobr

    jobr Squad Player

    Straight relegation to league 2 is no fun.

    At least with my way we get to see them suffer for a few months and can have a good laugh at them.
     
  6. wfchornet2

    wfchornet2 The Prodigal mod

    Yea but my way we get to get edwards for next to nothing as he will be worth alot less as a league two player and we get to laugh at them for a few years as they struggle to get back up after losing all the players that wont play in league 2... eitehr way though we would get a few chuckles out of it i guess... lol :D
     
  7. jobr

    jobr Squad Player

    True :)

    judging by what Nick said about Edwards v the saints i am not so sure i want him now anyway.
     
  8. wfchornet2

    wfchornet2 The Prodigal mod

    True, but to my mind he is the most likely of all the rumours bandied around that we will get.
    He knows how to score which is something we need and is a good player to the most part, wether he would be able to bring it to the prem is another matter of course.
     
  9. Rookery_'Orn!

    Rookery_'Orn! Squad Player

    They Should make there next game run by a woman ref, woman lines(wo)man and a woman 4th Official ;D ;D ;D ;D
     
  10. Budfrog

    Budfrog Reservist

    He was quick to apologise, should have been the end of the matter.

    Ooops .... I'm sorry I forgot we live in "Nanny State UK" lts hang draw and quarter him for having the bottle to say waht most of the football world were thinking.

    While we're about it let every Watford fan jump on the bandwagon, not because of the offence, but because he is the Luton Town manager ...... how original :cool:
     
  11. wfchornet2

    wfchornet2 The Prodigal mod

    So what you are saying is that if a player, manager or the supporters of a club are racist so long as they apologise quickly they shouldnt be chastised for it?
    Sexism(which is what it was) is considered as bad as racism and should be treated as so... if he had said what are they doing having a black man in charge of the game he would have got the same and everyone would have said rightly so.
     
  12. jobr

    jobr Squad Player

    I would never have guessed you would attempt to defend old newsbrows :rolleyes:
     
  13. Budfrog

    Budfrog Reservist

    As a country we seem to over react to these things, yes he was wrong, but he apologised so IMO that should be the end of the matter.

    Nothing to do with the fact it was Mike Newell, though I believe that he is a good manager.
     
  14. jobr

    jobr Squad Player

    ;D ;D ;D ;D

    Totally agree about the country has gone PC mad, but for newell I will make an exception.

    he was out of order and as such should now be punished (preferably the heavier the better :eek: )

    If you kill someone if you apologise should you escape punishment?

    Did he only apologise because the club forced him in to it and by doing so he tried to take the heat off and get a lighter punishment should he of been charged with an offence?
     
  15. WatfordÉire

    WatfordÉire Squad Player

    get in!!!!;D
     
  16. Budfrog

    Budfrog Reservist

    I like people who say what they think, the George Gallaways of this world. I may not always agree with what they say but they stimulate debate and IMO that can only be a good thing.

    If we keep on castigating people when they step over the mark things will get so sanitised that you may as well issue an FA approved press release for each manager after every match.
     
  17. WoodyWfc

    WoodyWfc Squad Player

    he deserved it, wat a pleb.
     
  18. Budfrog

    Budfrog Reservist

    He might be that but I'll bet he can spell What
     
  19. afanof

    afanof First Team

    Is that the 'most of the football world' who, week-in, week-out are screaming at the males running the line that they don't know what they are doing, should familiarise themselves with the laws of the game, learn the offside rule and go to specsavers, were thinking the same as Mike Newell?:mad:
     
  20. firefly

    firefly Jay´s Jar of Nutella

    I absolutely agree that things are a bit too PC crazy these days, but the fact of the matter is that that is the way it is, and everyone has to be treated the same.

    No matter what, that person was there to do a job, and fair enough, slate her if she wasnt doing it right, but for that reason. Dont bring gender, race or anything else into it.
     
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2006
  21. lm_wfc

    lm_wfc Squad Player

    like jobr said earlier, you cant go through life apologising, shall we let saddam of if he says sorry?
     
  22. Budfrog

    Budfrog Reservist

    Newell opened his Gob B4 engaging his brain ....... Err Saddam is a Pathelogical Mass Murderer, is the comparison entirely fair ????
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2006
  23. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    The fact is there are rules against such conduct and they should be applied, regardless of the person concerned. He made an attack on an official, that is unacceptable and he will rightly be fined. It's nothing to do with political correctness or whether someone says sorry or not.
     
  24. Budfrog

    Budfrog Reservist

    ........................... Yawn !!!!
     
  25. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    No one is stopping Mike Newell saying what he thinks Budfrog, so your Orwellian vision of sanitised press releases is a distant fallacy. However, the fact remains that managers are not there to "stimulate debate" or discuss women's issues or anything else for that matter. They are there to manage a football team. Frankly I don't want to hear Mike Newell's outlook on society any more than I give a flying fark what Aidy thinks about the European single currency or maybe what impact Wenger considers the lack of resources for science teachers to have on the physics curriculum.

    Everyone is entitled to their viewpoints - his was badly made. His 'stimulation of debate' (read: rant) has probably put all female officials outside of professional football in increased danger of even more direct abuse from big thick oafs on a Sunday morning. You see what a manager says one week translates onto the Sunday League pitch the next - you'd be truly surprised about the impact if you could grasp the extent to which this occurs. He had a responsibility and he neglected that.

    Aside from that, I'm not sure if I blame MN entirely for the saga because as per usual the media picked up on a non-story and turned it into a spurious back page article. That said maybe he deserves to be punished for simply lacking the acumen to make his statement calmly...
     
  26. Bubble

    Bubble Wise Oracle

    Budfrog, are you Newell's love child?
     
  27. lm_wfc

    lm_wfc Squad Player

    so he did worse, he must just ahve to say a bigger sorry
     
  28. Budfrog

    Budfrog Reservist

    Better to be born than hatched Mr Bubble ....

    These boards are becoming more and more like clones of the OMBs, narrow minded posters with the brain the size of an omoeba :rolleyes:
     
  29. fan

    fan slow toaster

    Gross misuse of the least meaningful phrase in society - 'political correctness gone mad.' If MN wants to judge the referee's merits on the criteria of having a pair of testicles, then he deserves to be punished and he shouldn't be defended on the basis of it being 'PC'.
     
  30. Budfrog

    Budfrog Reservist

    You can't climb aboard the bandwagon Fan

    It's full .....

    Standing up for what is right and just is so much more rewarding (I'll try it one day :D )
     
  31. fan

    fan slow toaster

    the only bandwagon i'm jumping on is the one to ban the use of any phrase which resembles 'political correctness gone mad.'
     
  32. fan

    fan slow toaster

    the only bandwagon i'm jumping on is the one to ban the use of any phrase which resembles 'political correctness gone mad.'
     
  33. fan

    fan slow toaster

    what the hell happened there!?
     
  34. willmer

    willmer Reservist

    His punishment should date back to his out of date views.........stone him!!!
     
  35. hornetmaster

    hornetmaster Reservist

    Whilst Newell, was clearly daft to express himself in the way he did, due to his priviledged position (if you can call managing that crowd a priviledge), and responsibility to the game etc.

    This female evidently doesn`t have a great reputation for `acceptable refereeing performances` in the lower leagues, and if he had aimed his fire at the selection process that has enhanced her career he would have been on safer ground (other than the Football Grandees would have fined him anyway for bringing the game into disrepute).

    Uriah Rennie took a lot of stick for sub standard performances and was eventually demoted (and subsequently promoted) and the fear is that like the police force they are operating positive descrimination to boost the standing of minorities over competence to do the job.
     

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