So, someone was stabbed to death Saturday night in my hometown outside one of the clubs during a mass brawl. The offender was allegedly part of Mostack's (some terrible grime artist) entourage, who was performing that night at Gallery nightclub, and was even on stage with him earlier in the night. So this piece of **** has come down here and caused absolute mayhem, where someone has died because one of his scum of the earth friends had brought a machete with him and brutally murdered someone in the street. Worst of all? His first port of call was to message people who had videos of it asking them to delete to try and save his arse. There are of course a number of brain dead, apologist idiots trying to defend him and the situation, but there is literally zero excuse for anyone to be carrying a ****ing machete around and then attack someone with it, and even though Mostack isn't the murderer, he is accountable for bringing these low lives with him and he will without a doubt know what they are like and capable of. The club is clearly up **** creak too, as these incompetent fools have allowed this group to bring weapons into their club. Just ridiculous, all of it.
Perverting the cause of justice should be the absolute minimum. Well this has left a footprint across the Web surely and has to be dealt with according. As for them taking weapons anywhere is beyond my comprehension. Into the club is just failure on so many levels. Its just ******* so saddening. RIP to the victim.
The coward still hasn't come out and made any sort of statement either. Hope this completely finishes his career.
"My bruddas got the knife outside And he'll use it Don't come if he says "come outside" Cause that's stupid" **** this **** and this terrible genre of "music" in general. The vast majority of it incites knife crime, gun crime, violence, murder and gang culture.
Wikipedia; Edit Montell Daley[1] (born 31 August 1994), best known by his stage name MoStack, is a British murderer from Hornsey in North London.[2] within the urban UK music industry. Its been changed back now
Unconfirmed, but saw someone saying the bloke who killed the guy was waving this machete around on stage... Surely not.
In an unexpected turn the victim was the cousin of Bradley from s club 7. Club needs to take a look at cousins the guy was waving round a knife on stage
Really sorry to hear that Nath A loss of life to yet another senseless act of humanity. Prayers and love go out to all involved and connected with the young lad. Terrible waste of life.
You will find all those unfortunate actions you mention in your last sentence existed long before Grime, gangstar rap & violent video games etc were even thought of.
Definitely true, but I'm just amazed that anyone can be so thick that it's what they want to sing about.
All the people doing the stabbing were from London. My sister in law lives in Maidstone and make no mistake, this is devastating for the town because it just doesn't happen there.
Well we've certainly seen a rise in all of those actions since the advent of those triggers you somewhat dismiss. It seems bizarre to me to suggest that music and video games with violent lyrics/content don't have an effect. The former would certainly seem to have been a relevant factor in Maidstone on Saturday night. Or are you simply saying it's always been there and just doesn't matter?
1. MoStack isn’t a grime artist. 2. Is it his fault his friend stabbed someone? Reason he probably hasn’t come out and said anything is probably for legal reasons. Agree he shouldn’t be messaging people to take the footage down however. Foolish
I was listening to Nick Cave on the way in to work and have been inspired to brutally murder people in my lunch hour.
It certainly does matter for society. What I'm suggesting is it's always been there in one form or another since the dawn of time, although I wouldn't say it helps. It's hard to blame the so called individual music artist or genre of music itself if people that listen to your work, then want to take the conscious step of murdering someone. What % of people that listen go on to commit murder, it must be in 00.1% This was the original assertion made when gangsta rap emerged in the USA in the 90's, you don't hear that argument made there anymore. They would still be shooting each other every day if it didn't exist. You also have to remember that the national press/main stream media actively report on stabbings now when 10-15 years ago it either wasn't news worthy or the media outlets didn't have access to the information in order to report it. Stabbings/Stanley knives/Pen Knives were a big thing in the 60/70/80's all around the country. Ask anyone in Glasgow.
The town can be a bit rough on the weekend nights, but it's more mouthiness and little scraps than anything, you never hear of anything like this happening. There are a couple of areas/estates that can be quite nasty and have had some similarly awful things go on down the years, but if you don't live there and aren't a part of that community then it then it's not going to affect you. Generally it's a safe town. It's partly his fault, yes. Guilty by association. He's the one who has brought this pack of animals with him, it's his entourage. You'd have to be either naive, biased or a mixture of the two to think he doesn't know the sort of people he is associating himself with and what they're capable of. Almost impossible to prove, but again there is not a chance in hell that he didn't know someone had a machete on them - and that's just the one weapon we know of.
Jesus, I thought you just spouted angry incorrect facts about football. Firstly, MoStack is not a grime artist and you assuming he is because he's black and raps is lazy and quite honestly, borderline racist. Secondly, "guilty by association"? Really? Shall we just run with this mentality throughout life and see where it gets us? It's not fair. There's a duty on Mo because of his position yes but how can you possibly expect him to be accountable for his friend's actions? He's nowhere to be seen in the video! MoStack's name was tagged across the original video on social media even though he's not in the video, with the way Instagram works that gives the impression it was he himself who did it and as a very successful artist regardless of your personal opinion on his music, that is dangerous. A foolish decision in hindsight but the guys 23/24, in shock, worried about losing everything he's worked for AND he's autistic by the way, so that take into consideration. And finally, you probably have no idea who started the fight, who's knife it was and what any of the circumstances were so for you to make such personal comments defaming his name without any info is pretty harsh. Whilst it may seem unfathomable to you that 10 friends could go out and some not know there was a weapon in the clique, I can tell you now, in the environment Mo grew up in which I can only assume is MILES from what you grew up in Nath (correct me if I'm wrong), it's not all that surprising. In fact, I'd go as far as to say it's pretty damn common. Now that is a whole separate thread in itself but please ease off the defamation of character until court proceedings are concluded.
As a minimum, if he was advising that the video footage be taken down then that could be construed as an attempt to conceal evidence and aiding and abetting a crime. The crime of murder. But maybe he had other reasons. Too late anyway. The old bill made four quick arrests, now five. What he should have done (almost certainly did) was to assist the police with their enquiries. Into the crime of murder. I'm sure Nath doesn't know who started the fight or who's knife/ machete it was. But I bet MoStack had a pretty good idea. The fact that he's black is irrelevant as far as his music's concerned and he wasn't the perpetrator. But IF the perpetrators are black too (five have now been arrested and their names suggest they are) (and the victim was certainly black) then their blackness is entirely relevant. Because, as we all know, the vast majority of knife crime in London is black on black with a Somali element featuring strongly. So tell it like it is eh? Absent fathers, lack of opportunity etc.etc. are all relevant but so is blackness. Targetted stop and search is entirely justified. Pity it wasn't working properly on the night in question. Kindly don't call me borderline racist or even full-on racist for simply articulating a truth that everybody knows.