[NOT HAPPENING] Matty Longstaff

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by reids, Jun 2, 2020.

  1. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    It's a long story and I'd rather not go into it.
     
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  2. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Newcastle had an loan bid accepted for Idrissa Gueye yesterday but unfortunately for us he rejected the move.
     
  3. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Another bullet dodged.
     
  4. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Time to look elsewhere then ?
     
  5. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    I think this only makes any sense if we bring someone in that suits the division we are in more. If we do that then it may not be a bad move all round. I think Quina's style will suit La Liga more than English football. If we don't bring anyone in then this really is a strange decision.
     
  6. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    Just to play devils advocate who knows what's going on behind the scenes.
     
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  7. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Just to play devils advocate's mate - I think we can all hazard a fairly accurate guess at the chaos going on.
     
  8. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Can someone more adept than me please photoshop Gino's head onto Keanu Reeves dodging bullets in The Matrix? I've wanted to do it all weekend but it'd be next window by the time I figure out how....
     
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  9. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Steve Bruce interviewed by the radio and said he's 'heard nothing from Watford' re.Matty Longstaff. Didn't rule it out though.

    Leventhal has retweeted it saying discussions have taken place - so directly contradicting the Newcastle manager.
     
  10. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    "Work out" not "figure out". You're turning all American on us already. We've lost you....
     
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  11. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    "Discussions"
    "Chaps. Would you be interested in loaning any of the Longstaffs to us for the princely sum of two hundred English pounds per month ?"
    "No, **** off"
    "Ok"
     
  12. DrewH

    DrewH Administrator Staff Member

    SSN reporter just said Chalobah and Choudhury happy to move clubs. Matty Longstaff not so keen to come here and would need convincing.
     
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  13. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    We don't need midfielders, plus we'll get some money. No brainer for Gino.
     
  14. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Lol. So we're the only ones who get a player who doesn't want to be at the club they go to.

    Classic scouting network.
     
  15. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I can completely see the logic in selling Chalobah to the PL - we will likely get more than he is worth and he looks poor again this season.

    However, replacing him with a 6 month loan deal (particularly someone who has only played 20 games in professional football and doesn't seem to want to join us) doesn't really make much sense.

    Just another example of more short-term planning if this is how it plays out.
     
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  16. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Or fortunately. We already have a shirt with his name on it!
     
  17. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Could you imagine if we went up? We'd have to sign 9 new players. Like Fulham did that year and were relegated in embarrassment.

    Absolutely zero long term planning has got us to this point and it continues on.
     
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  18. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Newcastle have now supposedly made an approach for Joe Willock.
     
  19. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    SSN saying even if Newcastle did allow a deal, Sean Longstaff simply doesn’t want to come, whilst Matty Longstaff has concerns about whether he’d play regularly - seems the Garner thing could have had a knock-on effect.
     
  20. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    In fairness we are the only club that would be a division below.
     
  21. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    I think the best option for us would be to do what Norwich did last season balance the books and keep rebuilding.
     
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  22. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Enter the 2021 equivalents of utter turd like Ibarbo, Diamanti, etc.
     
  23. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I think it's more likely the head coach instability coming home to roost rather than Garner. Loan moves sometimes just don't work out and I'm sure most pros know that. But the classic way to convince a player he'll get a fair crack at earning a place in the team is to get the manager in touch with them to make positive noises. It doesn't work here though. Longstaff (and if not him, his agent) will know even if you get assurances from one Watford head coach he could be gone by the end of the week and then you could be completely stuffed. Frozen out and relying on someone who owes you nothing is a lousy place to be.
     
  24. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    I'm all for this. About time we reclaimed the lowest ever points total record.
     
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  25. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Gino likes a record.

    Fastest goal ever conceded
    Biggest FA Cup final defeat
    Most too goodest team to go down
     
  26. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    Deal described as “dead” by the Athletic’s Leicester writer (who’s obviously interested due to the Choudhury/Chalobah love triangle the three clubs have got going on)
     
  27. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Was probably never alive !
     
  28. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    Rather this than further running up our debt buying players and the get relegated anyway.
     
  29. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    I agree, was being tongue in cheek. I suspect we are well and truly screwed financially and need to think longer term. If we go up this time, we are so ill equipped to stay up would take a massive investment and probably not worth the risk.
     
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  30. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Amazing how things change in 6 years isn't it?

    Back in 2015, we were all like 'I can't wait to see who we bring in the PL! Gosh so exciting!'

    Now it's, 'let's just get relegated with the lowest points total ever so we don't go bust'.

    Even the COGs are slowly becoming realists about the way the club is run.
     
  31. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    It's about the size of club we are, not about how we are run. I think that was probably one of the mistakes made by the owners, he thought we could be a top 10 team in the Premier League but with the funds we had it was hugely unlikely. If we were to go up what should we do. The Fulham version of spending £100m on loads of players or the Norwich way and accept that relegation is very likely and don't put the club in danger. I'm sure we are struggling financially but I suspect looking at the money being spent in this window, everybody else is as well
     
  32. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    The idiocy of banging on about being the "best of the rest", and then believing their own hype, has led GP & SD to gamble all on becoming that, but with such lack of ability in recruitment and sussing when a player has reached his sell-by date that we are where we are now: skint with an ageing, imbalanced , mediocre, massively overpaid squad.
     
  33. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    The problem was (and people can bang on about how we're limited as a club due to our size and seemingly every other club have billionaire owners, even the ones that don't) that they abandoned the transfer model that worked.

    I don't think anyone would have minded if Doucoure had been sold for £30/£40m at his peak and we signed a few young defenders and strikers.

    I mean, they spoke a good game, Duxbury used to bang on about if they didn't sell players at their peak then they'd failed in their role.

    But we didn't. Even Richarlison was sold, arguably, a season too early.

    As a result, players who'd be sold the dream of moving on were forced to stay, we couldn't get rid of the others and the disillusionment manifested on the pitch last season as we sunk without trace.

    One day we might get the full story about why they moved away from what had worked for them but I doubt it.
     
  34. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    I think it was the insidious effects of believing their own hype about becoming established as the best of the rest. They turned their own heads and lost sight of what had been successful for them as they saw that as the way to achieve that (highly unlikely) aim.
    Added to this is the probability that other clubs across Europe have caught up with them on the way they used to unearth a disproportionate number of highly profitable unknowns who generated performances, results, profits. They no longer enjoy the advantages of that model to the same degree.
     
  35. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    Probably not getting either so won't matter much to us but am I right in thinking that Sean is the better player?
     

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