Luther 'disgusted' By Club's 'shameful Pr'

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Moosegasm, Feb 7, 2021.

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  1. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    They're not going to apologise. Luther isn't a greasy agent trying to flog us an 18 year old Belgian, so why would they show him any respect?
     
  2. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    I'm amazed someone didn't say 'FFS that's awful. We can't put that out. Delete it straight away'!
     
  3. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Given it was done in-house the simplest thing to assume is they both thought it would do more good than harm. Probably no more advanced than that. Essentially some vague sort of sticking plaster for his reputation in the face of him being in the squad for the foreseeable, plus a line drawn where both sides can refer back to that interview if questions keep rumbling on.

    Truth is though only a small percentage of the fan base will ever see it. I don't ever watch these things so Luther drawing attention to it has, to a certain extent, backfired. Fair play though @Lloyd, I think you clocked/objected to the Luther angle sooner than anyone else.
     
  4. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Nor do I and I think it's too late now, it would seem as if their hand has been forced.
    Apologies have to be immediate,the longer it goes on the less sincere it appears.
    I had a coach who made a very crass remark to a child. I advised her to apologise immediately to the child and grandparent,who helped out at the session,when she told me what had happened. She was obviously aware it was wrong as she told me five minutes after it occurred.
    She didn't.
    I saw the grandmother by chance on arrival at the club one day and asked if an apology had been received. She said "no" and said she was going to report it to our welfare officer. He in turn had to alert the LTA.
    We had to suspend the coach,pending an investigation and she then resigned after much acrimony.
    All because she didn't apologise there and then.
    It should not have been broadcast,whoever sanctioned it should be removed or sent on some re training.
     
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  5. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    You'd like to think that was a given! It's really only the Luther angle that has annoyed people, I think. If it weren't for that I'm sure not many people would be bothered by it
     
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  6. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Think I can safely say that will not happen in this case!
     
  7. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Then Andre Gray is clearly going to have to face the full wrath of the Lawn Tennis Association.
     
  8. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    The whole idea of the video was a terrible one. The one and only thing Gray could do to be more liked is to start playing like an £18m footballer in matches. Anything else just looks like excuse making, playing the victim and patronises the fans.
     
  9. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Judy Murray would probably do a better job of holding him to account - so long as she doesn’t compare him to Tim Henman. Or Tame Henman as The S*n once called him.
     
  10. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    And yet it hit the mark with the throbbers they give a platform to...mission accomplished.

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  11. RMT79

    RMT79 First Year Pro

    Cannot believe there has not been a public apology - too late now. I’m sure this will come under “mistakes were made and we will learn from them” BS from Dux and Gino at the end of the season when we are still firmly in the Championship and in the midst of another fire sale
     
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  12. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    Christ. Given a little recognition by the club and he's straight up the chairman's ar$ehole.

    Then again he describes himself as a "Social Media Freelancer" so you know he's got f**k all idea about the real world.
     
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  13. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    I just googled him. Explains a lot.

    An utter fist.
     
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  14. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    This young lad's on the payroll isn't he? I'm sure he fronts up some kind of online WFC children's channel. I'm not sure if its an official club thing or not
     
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  15. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    I thought it was a parody channel.
     
  16. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    WTF. Absolute joke of a post. Fronts up and takes responsibility! I fear not ,heard excuses and feeble attempts to apologise. If anything g the whole video should be taken down.
     
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  17. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm Reservist

    Jacob has been on Hive live. His WFC YouTube channel 'WD18' is really good. He has an excellent understanding of football and WFC. I'd imagine quite a few people on here would find his positivity hard to handle, personally I find it a good counter balance to the toxicity that can build up here and the meandering unfunny humour bypass of from the rookery end and Leventhal's semi informed, annoyingly inoffensive witterings.
     
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  18. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Basically a copy and paste hound on Twitter. Someone else does all the hard work and has some talent whilst this one rehashes the work and pastes it for his delighted followers to see despite the fact they would have already seen it.

    A job a bot could do.
     
  19. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Actually you're right, there's a YouTube channel involved. He does one of those godforsaken watchalong things. I feel much much better about using the Shoutbox now.
     
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  20. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    I couldn't see beyond his shyt haircut to be honest.
     
  21. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Those Moldavian troll farms are becoming more sophisticated.
     
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  22. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    You mean your mum doesn't cut your hair?
     
  23. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    That's right. I looked at it once a while back. It's very professionally put together but I genuinely thought it was for school-age fans. I certainly don't think it's designed to appeal to miserable ba5tards like us! But I'm sure there's lots of people who'll think that's a good thing!
     
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  24. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    You can disagree with Jacob's tweet (for what it's worth, I do too) but the above posts seem unnecessarily mean.
     
  25. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    I'm sure he's a good lad, kind to his mum and says his prayers every night, but his comment about the club's video nasty is one of the most blatant bits of brown-nosing I've seen in a long time
     
  26. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    As an aside, I'm always amazed at how shyte the Beeb's PR is. I suppose hiring a professional outfit would would cause the Daily Heil and Express to spontaneously combust but you'd think a media organisation should have some 'in-house' talent.
     
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  27. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Shhhh! You'll attract Hooter!
     
  28. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Agreed. Think they should be removed to be honest.
     
  29. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Despicable.
    Jealousy is not a good characteristic to have.
    I've seen his offerings once.
    There's only so much banal cheeriness you can stomach.
     
  30. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Correct. I only watched it because of the Luther reference, which was the only bit that annoyed me. The rest of the interview made me feel no worse about Gray than I already did, both in terms of his lockdown transgressions and his ineptitude as a footballer.
     
  31. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Yes, if it weren't for curiosity to hear what had been said to upset Luther I don't think many people would have made it to the end. Grey isn't exactly a great raconteur and as you say, his performance only served to confirm the opinion that a lot of people already seem to have of him.
    I'm surprised the video is still on the club site. If they don't intend to apologise publicly to Luther surely at the very least you would expect them to remove the film from official channels.
     
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  32. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    You know you have a problem when people cannot see the error of their ways.
     
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  33. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    They must know they've cocked up. Luther has publicly stated he was offended so the club is duty bound to put out a statement explaining that it wasn't its intention to upset our greatest ever goalscorer. I may be over reacting but to my mind this episode says more about the way our club is being run than any number of bizarre manager appointments and sackings. I have become a bedwetter!
     
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  34. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    The older I become the more it is apparent what is,as Basil Fawlty said "the bleeding obvious",is anything but to others.
     
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  35. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Why? Not that I made any of them, but he's an adult, and he's broadcasting an opinion on a public forum. To boot, he's doing it as someone who is undoubtedly connected to the club, but clearly attempts to straddle a questionable line of impartiality/pretending he isn't connected to it and is just a fan speaking for fans, when he is in reality playing a PR role. This is far from the first time it's happened. Regardless, I don't see why pretty milquetoast things, in all honesty, should start being censored because he's a bit wet behind the ears, and my first sentence is the real substance of why it presumably hasn't/won't be.
     
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