(Loaned out) Jerome Sinclair

Discussion in 'The Team Bus' started by Dusbero, Jul 10, 2017.

  1. Dusbero

    Dusbero First Year Pro

    Spoke to a Brum fans who said this about JS.

    "He played up until March then, we just didn't play him. We mainly used to play with just 1 striker up-top in Lukas and he did well for us initially, which is why we forked out £1m to Burnley for him.

    We slapped him straight in the team, which IMO, was wrong. I would have let grow into the games through the subs bench. To be fair, we already had Lukas, The Don and Che Adams already. I don't think he was a neccessary signing.

    If he was loaned to a League One or Two side, I'm sure he would've done very well. He's a decent gem of a player, but Zola was not a good manager to draw talent from people (2 wins from 22 games...).

    He still has time, I hope he does well for himself."

    Perhaps not such a bust as we think? I can't imagine Jerome Sinclair being the kind of player to do well as a lone striker.
     
  2. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Yeah, he's already possibly League 2 standard, according to some incredibly patient Brum fans. Who knows, in 3 years he could be ready to tear up League 1.
     
  3. Dusbero

    Dusbero First Year Pro

    Britt was sent to the conference at his age. Britt was done right. Sent to Wealdstone, he smashed it so we brought him back. Sent him to Braintree, he smashed it so we brought him back. Sent him to Southend, smashed it. Sold to Peterborough, smashed it. Sold to Nottm Forest, smashed it.

    Sinclair should spend a month or two in League 2. Wouldn't hurt him, maybe his ego.
     
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  4. Klein Lust

    Klein Lust Academy Graduate

    Experience is what he requires, then
     
  5. Miguel Pinho

    Miguel Pinho Academy Graduate

  6. fuzzy73

    fuzzy73 Reservist

    Ched Evans will teach him how to get in the box unnoticed
     
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  7. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

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  8. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Hmmm. Close.

    I would have gone with '...will teach him to arrive late in the box and sneak out the fire exit afterwards'.
     
  9. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

  10. Timbers

    Timbers Apeman

  11. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

  12. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    One of our more disappointing prospects so far. Has shown nothing to me in any of his games or moves to suggest he can hack it at Premier League level. I would love for him to disappoint me but I cant see it happening.
     
  13. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

  14. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    Yet another player who wants the trappings of the footballer life without really giving it his all. A waste of talent.
     
  15. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    It was obvious from the very first minute I saw him on the pitch that he was never going to make it.

    An absolute helmet.
     
  16. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    1 goal in 11 games at Sunderland.

    Awful player. Going to be lucky to make a career of it in League Two.
     
  17. After watching both the Barnet and Salford cup matches recently, I'd say he would struggle in the National League.
     
  18. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

  19. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

  20. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Still would give him a run of games.
     
  21. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    Pozzo's lining up a 7 year contract for him, so I hear.
     
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  22. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Send him to Udinese. That would be hilarious.
     
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  23. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Only if we get their best player coming the other way. They can also have Britos.
     
  24. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    It never ceases to amaze me how the fortunes of football clubs fluctuate so rapidly.

    Jordon Sinclair's career is going downhill fast, but he's on the fringes of the Sunderland first team, having been loaned from Watford. In any other decade that would probably mean he is doing well with his career leaving Watford for a much bigger club, but it's Watford who are the established Premier League club and Sunderland are the League One team.

    It doesn't seem that long ago that Sunderland were the next step up the revolutionary ladder for Kevin Phillips. How times change.
     
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  25. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Often I see players making short sighted moves "up."

    E.g. they leave a team in the championship for a premier league side, then 8 months later the roles are reversed.

    I'm sure the salary has a bearing but status is also important I'm sure.
     
  26. Hornet4ever

    Hornet4ever WFC Forums Last Man Standing Winner 2018/2019

    Usually there is a premium paid for academy players from so called bigger clubs because it's harder for them to get into the first team. When they are out of contract & move on, the new club have to pay a 'development fee' for having gone through the academy.

    Jerome's transfer to us was once such development fee of circa 4m in 2016. Puts it into perspective the value we got when we bought Quina for 1m in 2018.

    L'pool had us over, possibly up there with one of the worst ever transfers in Pozzo/Watford history & unlikely we could even give JS away now. 100% total write off. At least we got a few goals out of The Duke.

    Just because they came from a big club doesn't mean anything. If anything can be a red flag.
     
  27. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina Squad Player

    The mind boggle. 4m development fee for Sinclair. 100k compo for Jadon Sancho.
     
  28. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Nothing wrong with that. We are not a top 6 club, whereas City and Liverpool are. Those are the rules.
     
  29. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    We got nearer £1m in the end for Sancho after the sell-on to Dortmund, which isn't bad for a 14yo.

    With Sinclair we agreed the fee with Liverpool. It wasn't an automatic payment and so was really a traditional transfer fee rather than a development fee. I suspect we paid more up front to try to reduce the number/value of clauses in the deal based on future achievements. I suspect a tribunal would have come back with a lower up front fee for Sinclair. Plus Sinclair was 19yo so always going to command a higher fee than Sancho.
     
  30. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

  31. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

  32. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    It was obvious from the outset that this transfer would be an abject failure. 99% of Jerome's are complete *****. It's basic science.

    Jerome K Jerome was such an arse hole that the british army rejected him during WW1. Imagine how much of a toss pot someone must be when you aren't even considered good enough to be cannon fodder.

    Let that sink in.

    It's mind boggling that the pozzo's sanctioned this transfer.
     
  33. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

  34. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Last chance saloon beckons.
     
  35. How can a kid completely devoid of any football talent get employed by Liverpool, Watford, several loan clubs, and England U17s?
    It’s got to be a wind up.
     

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