(loaned Out) Cucho Hernandez

Discussion in 'The Team Bus' started by reids, Oct 4, 2017.

  1. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    I expect a lowly La Liga side will fancy taking him if we go down. He’d want the move so we’d probably have to let him go, but I don’t think he’s done enough yet to get the maximum value.
    Probably a loan with an obligation to buy at a set price if certain objectives are met.
     
  2. JMHO but I think he'll be here, as will Suarez, and barring a big offer Estupinan also. The Champ is a great stepping stone for their careers... as it was for Ighalo... and as the club will happily sell to them.
     
  3. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Ighalo had only really had success at Segunda B level though, was very mediocre in Serie A, whereas Estupinan has been great in La Liga this year, and the two Colombians are proven Segunda level strikers (with Cucho having a modicum of success in the top flight)
     
  4. The championship is a step up from the Spanish 2nd division

    we will know in a months time anyway
     
  5. Ágætis Byrjun

    Ágætis Byrjun Reservist

    Athletic suggest he doesn't have a work permit and won't until at least January.

    Gray, Deeney and Mediocrity it is.
     
  6. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Sounds like he cannot come yet.
     
  7. Don't footballers only have to play for 2 years to qualify for dual nationality, which he has done, so wont need a wp?
     
  8. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Besides, it's not like he's some teenager wet behind the ears, he's 22 and has three years experience in Spain and a full international cap, if Richarlison could get a work permit, I don't see why Cucho wouldn't
     
  9. I don’t think he needs one. Penaranda got in with dual nationality Spanish passport. Simple route for Cucho, Suarez, Estupinan (if it turns out the latter isn’t the greatest ever player and sold to Barca for £200M)
     
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  10. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Reservist

    Posted this is the championship thread as we were discussing him.

    Here it is again.

    This is what Cucho literally said in a interview in May of this year. 2 months ago

    “They have given me incredible confidence,"

    "I recently had the opportunity to renew and when you do, it is because they want you to be part of their project.

    “They have let me know that they intend to count on me for next year. I'm not confirming anything, but there is that interest and that possibility of being there. I am very grateful and after several years belonging to Watford it is time to wear their shirt."

    Why would the player himself say that? Unless we’ve royally messed it up like Gueye, then I fully expect to see him. Work permit no issue at all.
     
  11. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Pedro got a work permit and he's a wee nipper, would be absolutely astonishing if Cucho didn't get one
     
  12. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Well this is the Pozzos we are talking about!

    We do seem to mess things like this a lot up.
     
  13. Shaun

    Shaun Academy Graduate

    He’ll never play for us Geeno probably
    made him say that like Holebas lol ! Even if he does he’ll be poor as he’s part of the model
     
  14. He's a model and he's looking good.
    We'd like to take him home that's understood
     
  15. Shaun

    Shaun Academy Graduate

    Not a fashion model you know what I meant
     
  16. He plays hard to get, he smiles from time to time,
    It'd only take the premier league to change his mind.
     
  17. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Reservist

  18. hornetfan

    hornetfan Academy Graduate

    Some people have suggested that 'Cucho' Hernandez (who was 21 years old in April) is waiting for a Spanish passport, which is the reason that he will not be able to join Watford until January. Perhaps I have missed something, but I have a question. How will a Spanish passport help Hernandez to obtain a work permit after 1st January 2021 when the U.K. will not longer be subject to E.U. regulations?
     
  19. The Recluse

    The Recluse Reservist

    It won't, but it will make him a more attractive buy for Spanish and, I presume, other European sides as he won't take up a 'foreign' slot in their squads. By waiting those 6 months it should help increase any future transfer fee. ie., when he's sold on January 2nd 2021.
     
  20. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I don’t think the authorities have announced the post-Brexit work permit rules yet. But I imagine there will some bias towards EU players already on the books of clubs, otherwise it’ll create havoc.
     
  21. hornetfan

    hornetfan Academy Graduate

    You may be correct, but it does not make much sense (if you are correct) that Cucho has visited Watford's training complex twice during the past season and that he wrote on Twitter that he expected to join Watford next season. Perhaps Watford's relegation has changed the situation. There seemed to be a general expectation that he was the young loanee who was most likely to play for Watford next season and Adam Leventhal reinforced that view by suggesting in the Athletic that Cucho may not be able to join until January because of a work permit issue.
     
  22. hornetfan

    hornetfan Academy Graduate

    I was under the impression that no preference would be given to E.U. citizens, but there is a lack of clarity. Perhaps Cucho's situation will be different - as you suggested - because he is already on Watford's books, but who knows?
     
  23. The Recluse

    The Recluse Reservist

    The player was injured when he joined Mallorca, or at least recovering from injury/surgery. I'm pretty sure at least one of the occasions he turned up at London Colney was to aid his recovery or to monitor how his recovery was going.

    And I thought the tweet/message about joining us for next season was either deleted or played down by Cucho himself soon after?

    We'll find out soon enough when he either joins someone on loan in the coming weeks or is announced in our squad list. If it's a loan and for the season then I won't hold out much hope of him coming here to be honest but if it's just a 6 month deal then I'd say the WP/passport issues will have been real and he'd come here in January.

    Trying to second guess what is in store for our loan players is nigh on impossible, so I'll just wait until some obscure journalist in Spain, Italy or Belgium tells us which clubs they're playing for or their names appear in the forthcoming seasons squad list*.

    *Not really - I'm now going to go through all the individual player search pages I have open and press refresh at least twice on each one in the hope I can find something out!

    **Edit: No news on any of 'em.
     
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  24. The UK gov told the FA, PL and EFL to come up with a shared proposal. So far they have not been able to agree on anything.

    The FA want to treat all foreign players the same and reduce the total number in a squad (increase HG) in exchange they will sign off on all work permits for players regardless of origin. The PL wants things left as they are. Not sure what the EPL wants.

    In the absence of an agreement I guess the existing rules remain.
     
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  25. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    Being reported he’s about to join Getafe on a 1 year loan, no option to buy.
     
  26. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Cucho Hernández has arrived in Madrid ahead of joining Getafe on a season-long loan. There is no option to buy clause in the deal. [via
    @PipeSierraR
    ] #watfordfc

    Yes, just read it. Good news that we are still keeping hold of him. It's the WP issue that's preventing him from joining, which is frustrating, as he'd be brilliant in the Champ.
     
  27. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC First Year Pro

    2 assists tonight and it's not even half time.
     
  28. Gonna be sold for £2.5m and a share in a large cheesecake
     
  29. reids

    reids Squad Player

    One Allan Nyom also grabbed an assist!
     
  30. Will. Never. Play. etc etc
     
  31. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    What flavour?
     
  32. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Backwater league. Couldn't do it in the Champo.
     
  33. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Reservist

    Suarez replacement.
     
  34. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    This aged well.
     
  35. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    The Champo is a great stepping stone for them but if they have no Champo experience, they aren't good enough anyway.
     

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