Liverpool 2-0 Watford Fc- 14/12/2019

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by miked2006, Dec 9, 2019.

  1. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    Having said thgat
    I think its fair to say Gray does give a ****. Does try to get on to the end of things in the box. The end result is a bit hit and miss but he does try.
     
  2. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    A lot of it HAS to be confidence. Completely miss hitting a ball for any professional footballer, can’t be down to much else, can it? If they genuinely didn’t give a **** surely when presented with a golden opportunity to score a goal it would nestle in the top corner? It’s a given they’ve got the ability to strike a ball cleanly, if they were that relaxed they didn’t care that wouldn’t happen.
     
  3. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I've not seen it really mentioned, but we played Hughes in a much deeper role yesterday and he looked like a different player. He was everywhere and really put in a shift. I don't know why he's not been played in that position before. How many coaches have we had and no one has really played him in a deep central role.

    Going on what I saw from him at Liverpool, he'll be the first name on the team sheet and has to play in this position from now on. Well done to Pearson and his team for spotting something no one else has, and it seems so blindingly obvious.
     
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  4. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Watkins looks more than capable of making the jump to the PL. And Benrahma is reminiscent of Mahrez.

    The caveat to that is that Andre Gray was top scorer in the Championship a couple of times and FL Player of the Season once - it doesn’t always translate to the PL. But I think both would offer more consistency than Gray/Deeney/Pereyra are capable of achieving.
     
  5. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Was always earmarked at Derby as that type of player, to the point where at one stage he was being mentioned as a replacement for Gerrard at Liverpool. Obviously that didn’t transpire and we’ve wasted his abilities by making him an inverted wide player of sorts.

    But I agree wholly with the points you make.
     
  6. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    We took nearly 2 months to start a player that cost £40m quid! Most clubs play big signings immediately. Many clubs buy young players from foreign shores and play them far sooner than we did.

    I’m sure there are elements that are true to what you’re saying. But from the outside looking in, it was bizarre taking so long to get him into the team.
     
  7. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Was Hughes at Derby when Pearson was in charge? If so he will have more of a clue where his best capabilities are for now. But agreed put a great shift in as did everyone. Hopefully we will see consistency from now on. Pearson deserves credit for the way he has gone about his work. I wasn't convinced about his appointment but I'm already swaying towards him. Seems like a very shrewd man and is coming across as a real leader.
     
  8. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Size of transfer fee makes no difference to being mentally ready.
     
  9. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    What are we basing this not mentally ready thing on?
     
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  10. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    That’s not quite right. Gray was top Championship scorer the year he transferred to Burnley (2015-16) but the season before (our promotion season) for Brentford he was not in the top 10 scorers.
    I think the benefit of signing someone like Watkins would be that he is scoring currently for a confident Brentford and would be keen to make his mark in the Premier League. However, actually being able to sign him is a different matter.
     
  11. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Didn't he score against us at Griffin Park (the game when Ighalo scored in the last minute to win us the game) ?

    Gray that is..

    We could have had a chance to sing Watkins or any Brentford player when Andy Scott was here - but he didn't do much and was soon gone.
     
  12. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    There’s something about bringing Pearson in that makes me think we might try and resign Ighalo next month....
     
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  13. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Sorry, one of those seasons I mentioned was for Burnley in the Championship. My error.
     
  14. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Bringing back Ighalo should make Giraldi resign.
     
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  15. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Ighalo basically came out and said in an interview recently that he has offers from the Prem but he would love to come back to Watford. Something like that, I think.
     
  16. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    And Doucoure was pushed on much further, often ended up in the second striker role.
     
  17. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    How's he been doing in China? Googled it. Rather well it would seem!
     
  18. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Brilliant. What a player.
     
  19. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    What are those rare things?
     
  20. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    I saw him win a few headers yesterday. I saw Deulofeu do nothing other than give the ball away and sulk.
     
  21. Davidmsawyer

    Davidmsawyer Statto Statto Statto

    Proof?
     
  22. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    They're all woeful. It's quite pathetic that we find ourselves desperately using the odd, small things our forwards do get right to one up them over the others.
     
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  23. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    He's averaging 0.8 shots per game so far this season. Solid stuff.
     
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  24. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    My reply to Squibba’s post was purely stating the fact that as well as getting players “ in “ in January it is equally hard to get players “ out “. You by association obviously took offence and although I didn’t research Squibba’s content I apologise that you took this personally!

    The point I was trying to make was that at a reported 65 and 70k per week and 18 months and 30 months on their contracts to run respectively for Deeney and Gray it is hard to see Championship clubs taking over their contracts as well as paying us a transfer fee as well!

    As well as huge gambles, if the buying club was not promoted fair play restrictions could come into force further down the road leading to even more problems!

    As has been said by others:- a Fans forum is a matter of opinions and life would be boring if we all thought the same, and by the way keep up with the technical analysis, as I enjoy your posting!
     
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  25. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Being both our (joint) leading goalscorer and (sole) leading assist maker so far this season.

    It's only 2 apiece, but still.
     
  26. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    No chance. He'd be hammered if we lose games where the youth players play.
     
  27. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Use your eyes. Unless you believe that it's possible for footballers to contract footitis and lose the ability to pass to a colleague 5 yards away.
     
  28. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    And if we get hammered with the 'usual suspects'?
     
  29. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    It’s quite often the case with shy people that they need to get themselves ready in the head as much their fitness. Not saying that’s the case but clearly Mane was keen to mention it
     
  30. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    But your point was he doesn’t get in scoring positions but he did yesterday
     
  31. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Does this mean ‘wonderkid’ and general Watford saviour Joao Pedro won’t get a game?
     
  32. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    I don't mean literally never, but generally and more often than not his movement is appalling.
     
  33. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    What were they? I don't remember them at all, just the one where Sarr put him in and he missed the ball.
     
  34. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Questionable. Going on experience, it'll be March til Giraldi feels he's ready to be properly involved.

    Any of the current lot in the youth setups have absolutely no chance of being involved. Giraldi doesn't watch them.
     
  35. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Sorry but didn’t see the game but it was mentioned by the radio commentator. One was Sarr I believe
     

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