[SIGNED perm] Joao Pedro

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  1. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    He'll come off the bench to bag the consolidation goal to best Derby's low points record on goal difference.
  2. Cherno Samba was decent but his pace was less explosive than Cherno Bill.
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  3. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm Reservist

    Surely he's ours now. He's 18 and no-one has come in for him. I assume it's done and dusted now.
  4. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Different South American wonderkid, who will never play for us, but Juan Hernandez was at the training ground today doing some sort of fitness test.
  5. LaClusazSki

    LaClusazSki First Year Pro

    Tim Vickery (Talksport/BBC South American football guru) He really rates Joao Pedro and he has seen a lot of South American players go to Europe.
    Will he ever play for Watford is the big question?
  6. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Turned down a proposal from Fluminense for him to stay with them until next summer according to latest stories on social media and the internet.

    Most rumours and stories are saying we are pushing to have him here in January now.
  7. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Probably already got a contract/deal lined up for Liverpool next summer if we do go down!
  8. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Will never play for us
  9. LaClusazSki

    LaClusazSki First Year Pro

    Will he get a work permit? .
    Will he be sold before January 1st if we look totally doomed?
    £20 million or Pedro in the Championship? With the rumours that the Pozzo family are refinancing their debts or looking sell the club, £20 million looks a good bet.
  10. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    I've seen you mention this before but where do you get it from?
  11. LaClusazSki

    LaClusazSki First Year Pro

    I did say this a few months ago and last week it came out that the Club/Pozzo were refinancing.
    There is now a thread on here with comments about it.
    Who knows what the club or its owners will do once we are relegated . Some say they are protecting themselves . It's a cliche, but only time will tell.
  12. RS2

    RS2 First Year Pro

    His head.
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  13. LaClusazSki

    LaClusazSki First Year Pro

  14. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Where does it say they are selling?
  15. LaClusazSki

    LaClusazSki First Year Pro

    The refinancing is now public knowledge. The reasons for this are speculative. All options are possible. Relegation may force their hand.
  16. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Sounds like Joao Pedro has been having a tough time from his own fans - being booed after bring caught drinking at a festival couple of games before a matchday.
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  17. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    From the Sun - hasn't scored in 800 minutes (He'll be right at home here then)

    Watford-bound wonderkid Joao Pedro is struggling for form in Brazil ahead of his big-money Premier League transfer

    WATFORD-BOUND striker Joao Pedro has only just turned 18. But the young Brazilian has already acquired enough experience to see both sides of the game.

    He came up the ranks with Fluminense, a traditional club in Rio de Janeiro. This was the club that sold Richarlison to Watford – and the Hertfordshire club’s ever efficient scouting network lined up another splendid piece of business.

    Joao Pedro is the latest Brazilian teen heading to WatfordCredit: AP:Associated Press
    They spotted Joao Pedro slotting in the goals for the Fluminense youth side, and took out an option on the player.

    With a flurry of goals, Joao Pedro made his mark on the professional game when he got into the senior side towards the end of May.

    Most notably, there was a superb hat trick against Atletico Nacional, a top Colombian side, in the South American equivalent of the Europa League.

    Everything he shot found the back of the net. In next to no time he had raced to ten senior goals. He had gone from unknown to household name in the course of a month.

    But however good the player, however promising, this was too good to be true.

    Even the best go through bad patches. The goals have dried up.

    He has been denied by VAR and by the crossbar, and has not found the target since early September – more than 800 minutes of playing time ago.

    Parts of the crowd have started getting on his back. He was booed last week – and had to settle for a place on the bench in Sunday’s big derby against Flamengo.

    He has reportedly had a run in with supporters outside a restaurant, yelling at him to run harder, attacking him for attending the Rock in Rio festival while he and his team are going through a bad patch.

    Pedro is struggling for form at Fluminense ahead of his big-money move to the Premier LeagueCredit: AFP or licensors
    Little of this is his fault. Brazilian fans are notoriously impatient and demanding, and increasingly aggressive.

    And, after all, he is a raw youngster leading the attack of a team who are playing badly – with 11 of the 38 rounds to go in the Brazilian league, Fluminense hover worryingly just above the relegation zone.

    Without Muriel, the older brother of Liverpool’s Alisson, in goal, things would be worse.

    Joao Pedro, then, is learning his trade under pressure – and could well be learning more from this bad patch than from those golden few weeks when everything went right.

    But the big lesson here is the one to be learned by Watford fans. The player is expected to cross the Atlantic in January.

    There seems to be some hope in Hertfordshire that he might be the solution to the club’s dismal start to the Premier League campaign. Such thinking is surely premature.

    Struggling Watford can't expect Pedro to lift them out of Premier League gloom yetCredit: AFP or licensors
    Joao Pedro is indeed a magnificent prospect. With his rangy build, fluidity of movement and calm decision making, there may well be something in him of the young original Ronaldo.

    But there is little sign yet of the asset that made Ronaldo at his best all but unstoppable – the extreme pace running with the ball.

    Moreover, Ronaldo at 18 was not thrown into a relegation dogfight in the Premier League. He could develop in more gentle surroundings with PSV Eindhoven, a club that was expected to win most of its Dutch league games.

    Joao Pedro may well be a wonderful player for Watford, both in terms of performances on the field and in the money he may command from a future transfer deal.

    And he may well take the Premier League by storm. But almost certainly not as soon as January 2020.

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  18. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

  19. RS2

    RS2 First Year Pro

    It's The S*n. Does anything they say matter?
  20. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    What does Dear Diedre think about him?
  21. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    She's sending him her e-leaflet called 'Premier League team flopping? How to keep it up"
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  22. Sort of OK

    Sort of OK Reservist

    Never realised Alisson had a brother called Muriel, that's great, I wonder if there is a third brother call Barbara and a sister call Dave?
  23. The Recluse

    The Recluse Reservist

  24. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    We're surely not in a position to be able to spend loads more again on another one of their prospects? Unclear how many of their other players would even get a work permit.

    They're also still 16th in the league, so I doubt many of their players could help us out anyway.
  25. The Recluse

    The Recluse Reservist

    Joao Pedro wasn't in their 1st team when we identified him as a target so I was thinking more of a junior player.

    I was also thinking of a situation like Cucho where the player isn't identified as a Watford player straight away and is sent out on loan, but, if he shows early promise, cash in sooner rather than later.

    Maybe it just doesn't get written about very often but us helping out Fluminense by paying monies early just seems to go against the norm in the football world and my cynical side kicked in.
  26. reids

    reids Squad Player

    I think it's just a gesture of goodwill to keep Fluminese sweet since they've been good at providing us talent.
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  27. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Most media commentators at the time thought that the transfer fee was very low.

    I imagine we would have got a discount by paying the money up front, to smooth over Fluminese's finances and give them liquidity.
  28. The Recluse

    The Recluse Reservist

    Joao Pedro will be granted a work permit and will be able to play for Watford from January 1st.

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  29. RS2

    RS2 First Year Pro

    Great news confirmed by Adam Leventhal. Shame we have a coach that won't play him!
  30. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Probably be another Sarr.

    Turn up on a wet cold week day at the training ground not speaking the lingo and having no mates (apart from Gomes) before never really playing and getting injured.
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  31. We hate 48

    We hate 48 Reservist

    I read today that the Brazilian Joelinton signed for £40m by Newcastle from Hoffenheim has 1 goal from 6 shots on target in his 10 games so far this season- Christ he couldn’t score against us and this is a guy who scored 10 In 33 last season for this Bundesliga team. Always a gamble but if we are paying £2m for Pedro maybe we can afford it
  32. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Don’t it feel like we’re putting too much pressure on this kid? Instagram promo etc. Is he THAT good to make an instant impact in the Premier League?

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  33. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm Reservist

    He wasn't drinking just a pic with his girlfriend at a music event in Rio that pissed off the Flu fans.
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  34. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

  35. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Lol QSF already getting in the excuses to not play a young, attacking talent.
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