[SIGNED perm] Jeremy Ngakia

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by DrewH, Jun 16, 2020.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    I'd rather he can defend and needs work on his passing than the reverse.
    He's very young and needs to play and learn.
     
  2. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    If he’s not so weak as to be knocked off the ball by a light breeze and not so brittle as to shatter like a china teapot when he makes a tackle, then he’s an upgrade.
     
    Markoa$, Spoad, Watfordftw and 4 others like this.
  3. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    If we bring in Struber, he doesn't like to have his full-backs uneven with one defensive and one attacking - his preferred 4-3-1-2 diamond formation asks both full-backs to effectively act as wing-backs.

    One thing I don't understand in that analysis is how "defensive duels per game" and "defensive duels won %" is defined and where those stats come from?

    He looks very good on that graph there, but the data seems to have zero relation to the tackles attempted and tackles successful data I can see where he seems decent but not exceptional - whoscored has him at 55% "tackle success" and FBREF at 63% "tackle success"; while that guy's graph has his "defensive duels won" at 73%.

    Relatedly, Ngakia's "percentage of dribblers tackled" on FBREF is marginally below average at 30% (Femenia was 37%, Masina 31%).

    One other odd thing it that guy's stats, why has he omitted Wan-Bissaka and Alexander-Arnold?
     
  4. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Too many reports talk about him being "close to signing" and us being amongst the club's interested. It's clearly not a done deal that he will join us.
     
    Markoa$ likes this.
  5. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Data from his four or five appearances. Pointless to look at imo.
     
  6. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Maybe they're waiting until after the tribunal to announce it?
     
  7. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    If Struber likes wing-backs that can't defend, we don't need to sign anyone.
     
  8. ForzaWatford

    ForzaWatford Squad Player

    I was at that game and it was his debut playing against Mane. He kept Mane quiet and provided a bit of an outlet. I think his passing stats are a bit of a red herring - not many players will get great stats in a game against Liverpool when most your passes are hoofs up the line.
     
    I Blame Pozzo and lutonh8a like this.
  9. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Five appearances.

    I don't think it's completely pointless, the stats seem to reflect what appear to be his general strengths and weaknesses, and also that Johnson seems a better prospect out of Spam's young RBs.
     
  10. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    That depends on:
    - if we keep Pervis for the LB spot, because Masina offers next to nothing going forwards
    - If we keep Femenia
    - If we keep Janmaat and he stays fit
     
  11. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    I think we'll definitely keep Janmaat. He will play less than 20 games next season.
     
  12. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    It wasn't just in his matches against Liverpool though.

    Ngakia's pass completion:

    - Liverpool Away (0-2 loss) - 56%
    - Liverpool Home (2-3 loss) - 54%
    - Southampton Home (3-1 win) - 44%
    - Arsenal Away (0-1 loss) - 76%
    - Wolves Home (0-2 loss) - 52%

    So he achieved the average pass completion percentage for a PL full-back in only one of his 5 matches, which included his lowest %age in a 3-1 Home win vs Southampton.

    Some West Ham fans seemed to pick up in their thread on him that passing accuracy is a weak point of his at the moment as well.

    Along with defensive concentration across 90 minutes it's clear that's something he def needs to work on.
     
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2020
    PowerJugs and Jumbolina like this.
  13. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    If Janmaat can generally stay fit then him and Ngakia should be good rotation options.
     
  14. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Name names or else......
     
  15. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    It will be a miracle if we get him to play twenty games given his playing record. Send him to the glue factory.
     
    Chumlax and Spoad like this.
  16. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Being exceptionally lazy here but how many minutes did he play in each of those games?
     
  17. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    90 in all bar the last game (81)
     
    UEA_Hornet and lowerrous like this.
  18. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

  19. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

  20. Ainzrocker

    Ainzrocker First Year Pro

    Janmaat and Ngakia on the right, and Estupinan and Masina on the left gives us a good balance of experience and promising talent at full back.

    Ideally I'd like to see a more experienced replacement for Masina come in, and a flexible back up who can play across the defencel (/ike the roles Mariappa and Doyley have played for us in the past) but if we need to settle on this so we can sort out centre back and centre forward positions then I'd be happy with that.
     
    NorwegianOrn and lutonh8a like this.
  21. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    I think Masina could be a good a Center back, worth trying him there in pre-season atleast.
     
    Chiswell likes this.
  22. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I doubt any of those 4 will be here by the time the window closes.
     
  23. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    I can't see Estupinan ever putting on a Watford shirt.
     
  24. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Janmaat just signed a new contract and injured though.

    Cannot sell all the players ..

    Agree on Pervis.
     
  25. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    True. Janmaat will be here but never fit to play.
     
    Spoad and wfc4ever like this.
  26. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    luke_golden and folkestone orn like this.
  27. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    If this has been supposedly nailed on for so long I'm surprised there's no announcement yet.

    Probably realised he's made a huge mistake.
     
  28. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Anything on this fella? It's all very quiet.
     
  29. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I hear we may or may not be signing him. More detaills to follow....
     
  30. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Haha, excellent.
     
  31. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    He's not coming. Would've been announced by now, he and his agent obviously looking for a Premier League club for him.
     
  32. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    As I've posted earlier, I wonder if there's a chance they're waiting until the required transfer tribunal has happened?
     
  33. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Wouldn't that be a few weeks away?
     
  34. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    No idea.
     
  35. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    PowerJugs and Carpster like this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page