Ivic Out.

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by wfcmoog, Oct 28, 2020.

  1. Chumlax

    Chumlax Reservist

    This is an oddly oft-repeated fallacy; Gray is terrible in many ways but he is far more capable of playing as a lone centre forward than Troy is.
     
  2. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Well so long as he isn't asked to control the ball back to go.
     
  3. I'd prefer to play TD at home when the oppo defence is sitting deep, and Gray away from home where there should be more space and ability to break at speed. Agree Gray is not at his best with back to goal and against a packed defence.
     
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  4. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist

    No one has mentioned 4-4-1-1 as an option for the future. Clearly not likely to be Ivic's first option.

    Can Sarr manage wide right in a four?

    Sema can do left wing ahead of Kiko.

    Pedro as a support striker would be interesting running at people. Could back up the midfield somewhat too.

    Would still prefer 4-3-3 though I think.
     
  5. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist

    Success is potentially better than both, and had even shown it... But has been so poor for a while.
     
  6. 2-1-3-1-2-1 also an option, but possibly too narrow/long ?
     
  7. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist

    Been a while since we tried 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2

    Less 'Christmas tree' more 'snake'
     
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  8. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    What be Uber Watfordy to sack him now
     
  9. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    I see tonight's game isn't going to solve this bitter argument lol
     
  10. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    The guy doing our game on Quest must read this board!

    He talked about Ivic under pressure due to his formation and team selections.

    I cannot see him going now though.
     
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  11. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    We need a more attacking line up 1-2-3-4
    Capoue
    Cathcart Kabaselle
    Kiko Cleverley Sema
    Sarr Gray Hughes Jao Pedro
     
  12. PotGuy

    PotGuy Forum Fetishist

    If they stand on top of each other in a pyramid we will be dominant at defending set plays
     
  13. Keighley

    Keighley Squad Player

    What, in the same way that I am also potentially better than both?


    But I’m not. Nowhere near.
     
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  14. You probably are, you know.
     
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  15. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    I don't especially rate Gray but if you're going to get something out of him he needs to be in the opposition penalty box not with his back to goal on the half way line.
    Look at the headed chance against Stoke. Neither Pedro or Sarr would have been in the position to head the ball as they are not natural strikers. Deeney would probably not have made it that far. Only Murray would have possibly been in the right place.
    Put Gray in the middle with Sarr and Pedro/Sema either side and he will score goals and I suspect Murray would as well. First thing is to get Sarr out wide though!
     
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  16. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    I thought that was the helmet formation
     
  17. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    I did hear that chance so good point.

    Hopefully the Hive will be working so we can see him too!
     
  18. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    I think you need to lay off the drink
     
  19. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist

    He played well for like a whole 2 games as a lone striker!
     
  20. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Reservist

    Exactly. Same with Perica actually, he was being slagged off by some for his hold up play the other day but that's not his game either from what I was seeing. His goal was because he kept up with play and got on the end of something near the opposition goal.
     
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  21. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    I think it was more he kept falling over albeit not helped by some rough Bournemouth tactics.

    But he is a young more mobile option when fit.
     
  22. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Reservist

    Deeney has been teaching him well.
     
  23. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss Squad Player

    In the early days of football ( ie Corinthians, Hamilton Academicals) the standard formation was 1-1-8.

    No word of a lie.

    It was before the Scottish invented passing and the game was just a bumble bee group of 16 players following another bloke around who was trying to dribble it into the goal.

    Mourinho/Dyche and Pullis inverted this strategy in the modern game to a 8-1-1 formation known as "Parco El Buso"
     
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  24. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist

    Ah, the evolution of the beautiful game.

    No passing.

    Then passing.

    Then hoofing.
     
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  25. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Yes please Gino. Sack this unimaginative, defensive dullard.
     
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  26. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    I cannot stand this bloke, his horrendous tactics, his hideous football, his terrible selections, his monotone voice and his miserable f**king face.

    F**k me, I'd take Flores back for a third go over this utter sh*t week in, week out.
     
  27. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    He is using up the lucky generals GT used to talk about.
     
  28. põder

    põder First Year Pro

    Applying to join this club. That should have been at least 4-0. Sat back behind a disinterested Capoue and an incompetent Chalobah inviting pressure. If you give even a **** team 20 minutes to probe they will find a way. What was Ivic doing? Loves a 1-0, **** right off, we're not solid enough for that.


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  29. YellowHornets

    YellowHornets Reservist

    I’m all for giving Ivic time but those half time substitutions, wow. Bringing 2 of our pacey attackers off who were scaring QPR every time we attacked in the first half for Quina & Deeney. Going defensive at HT, cannot believe it. We deserved to lose for that.
     
  30. Ágætis Byrjun

    Ágætis Byrjun Reservist

    The worst thing is that he hasn't learned anything from the countless mistakes.

    It doesn't work, stop doing it!
     
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  31. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Squad Player

    ******* hate him. Rancid negative ****.
     
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  32. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    Now we know why he only got a 12 month contract - He is utter pants. Honestly Colin would get our squad promoted and probably play better football.

    When they say he is the first team coach - do they mean he drives the first team to the ground in a coach? Because he does not seem to make any other meaningful contribution on match day.
     
  33. nisman94

    nisman94 International Man of Mystery

    Jesus if you hate him then we're screwed
     
  34. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    All teams try to pass the ball around the back I guess but they then don't just wack the ball up the pitch like we do.
     
  35. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Academy Graduate

    He’s sucking all the joy out of what could have been an enjoyable season.
     

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