If You Want Ivic Out, Who Do You Want To Replace Him?

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by LeedsOrn, Dec 16, 2020.

  1. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Thankfully discovered this morning that he's got a new job in Qatar.
     
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  2. Good old Squiffy!
     
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  3. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Squiffy to replace itchy?
     
  4. magyarorszag

    magyarorszag Squad Player

    We need a former world class striker to get this team going not some second division flop in his 50s. Would love to see Thiery Henry
     
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  5. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    My Christmas wish list for our new manager:

    1. A manager with Championship experience

    2. A manager who will try and attack. You can't defend your way out of this league

    3. A manager who will challenge player power, but try and use some people skills while he does so, and keep people like Sarr and JP on side
     
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  6. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    He's been really not very good everywhere he's been, including Montreal Impact in MLS, so...
     
  7. Zola then. Or Joka.
     
  8. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    So QSF and a big compensation fee to the Qataries. This just gets better.
     
  9. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    I would settle for either.

    But wouldn't necessarily want to go back to a previous manager. Didn't work out so well last time around.
     
  10. V Crabro

    V Crabro Reservist

    Zola with the best defensive assistant coach we can afford
     
  11. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Munoz, who turned 40 in September and shares the same agent as Javi Gracia, came through the academy system at Valencia and played for Spain at under-17 to 21 level. He also featured in Spain’s top division for Real Betis, Tenerife, Recreativo and Levante between 2000 and 2011 before spending four successful years with Dinamo Tbilisi.

    The move, brokered by the same agent as Gerard Deulofeu and Kiko Femenia, saw Munoz score 79 goals in 129 matches. He was top scorer in the league in both 2012-13 and 2013-14, being named player of the year in the latter. He returned to play in Spain in 2014 with Gimnastic de Tarragona, where he stayed for two seasons before retiring and moving into coaching aged 36. He initially assisted Vicente Moreno, the current Espanyol head coach, who he’d been with at Valencia in his early days. He then had a brief spell at lower league side Pobla Mafumet before returning to Gimnastic in 2018.

    He returned to Tblisi as part of Zaur Svanadze’s coaching staff in 2018 before working alongside Felix Vicente in 2019. His fellow Spaniard was officially named head coach as he had the requisite UEFA Pro licence (unlike Munoz) to compete in European competitions, although its known that Vicente took the lead on fitness while Munoz concentrated on coaching. Munoz does have an A licence, which is enough to coach in the Championship.

    He left at the end of the season to continue his coaching training, but then returned in August of 2020 to take over on a short-term contract from Kakhaber Chkhetiani and guided them to their second consecutive title.

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    Munoz, who has favoured a 4-2-3-1 formation during the last two seasons and is known to promote an attacking style of play, has been described as a “very positive man who is funny during training but also strict,” by one source who knows him well. “He speaks English, is very friendly, very kind and attentive,” they continued. He left the club after the final 3-0 victory against Merani Tblisi on December 10 to return home to spend time with his family in Mallorca, where he was said to be waiting patiently to find out his next steps with his family.


    Sounds like Munoz will be the man or invovled in some way.
     
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  12. Cude>2<

    Cude>2< First Team Captain

    79 in 129? Any idea if he's still got it and fancies a few 90 min runouts?
     
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  13. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    I guess Munoz isn’t hugely different to when we appointed Aidy or Rodgers, except it almost certainly won’t be as good.
     
  14. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Law of averages says Gino has to get one right sooner or later
     
  15. Klein Lust

    Klein Lust Uber Keine

    I've never belived in the law of averages, if this were true, how come we ain't won anything in ages?;;
     
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  16. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    “He speaks English, is very friendly, very kind and attentive,”

    What's he doing Tuesday? My recently single (again) sister is coming over for lunch. Sounds like the sort of bloke she needs rather than the lazy, immature, selfish, drunken ba5tards she usually goes for
     
  17. Cude>2<

    Cude>2< First Team Captain

    Brave.
     
  18. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    I'm sure somebody mentioned he doesn't the right coaching badges but maybe he can come in and be an assistant in name only and then have somebody else who looks after the media side and is manager in name only. Could happen. I have never heard of this bloke but equally I had never heard most of the managers we get
     
  19. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    He has a UEFA A license which is enough to manage at Championship level.
     
  20. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Anyone have any insight on Javier Calleja who the article also mentions?

    Given his exploits at Villarreal, would surely be unlikely. But don’t know what his style is like?
     
  21. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Munoz Munoz Munoz, must be Munoz.

    It's a rich man's world.
     
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  22. Hairyfrog

    Hairyfrog Squad Player

    Going by the commentary yesterday it's apparent that Tommy Mooney and Paul Robinson know more about tactics that Ivic did, What a managerial combination that could be, and I don't see them taking any crap from uppity players.

    Ideally though I'd love Jokanovic to return, he had us playing good football, with a winning mentality, and most importantly a real understanding of how important the connection to the fans should be. Biggest mistake the Pozzos made was letting him go.
     
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  23. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    The bit in bold is the issue though.

    Clearly Ivic didn’t suffer the egos lightly either and dealt with them accordingly. And it’s backfired. And while the club continue to recruit on talent alone and not on personality traits, it’s destined to happen again.

    But we are where we are - I think we need a manager who, when encountering a player who is playing up, can put an arm round them and ask ‘What’s up? What’s causing this? Let’s see if we can sort it out together...’ rather than the colder approach of ostracising them or calling them out. That will only go one way.

    But the club must start scouting all aspects of a player and stop being so vocal about the club being a stepping stone for players.
     
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  24. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Fair enough, sounds like it might be him then
     
  25. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Terry Venables please. Safe pair of hands.
     
  26. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    THIS THREAD NEEDS TO CLOSED FOR NOW :rolleyes:
     
  27. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Can somebody reboot TVOR? He’s glitching again.
     
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  28. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Did anyone in the world think 'Munoz, he's the guy for the job!' - except Gino??
     
  29. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Who said Xixcxo Alvarez?
     
  30. lm_wfc

    lm_wfc First Team

    Ar epeople on here happy now? Lets be honest after sackign Ivic there was no chance of getting anyone decent - what self respecting manager with a good record would come here?
     

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