If VAR was in use this season.....

Unlike my car on the ice rink earlier sadly!

 

Nothing to do with them losing half their goal supply when the divings are over ruled

 

Good for him.

If this cobblers comes into football, that'll be it for me. I'll stick to non-league football and sod this PlayStation *****, "boo hoo, we should have had a throw-in 10 minutes ago and now the other team have scored, we want it reviewed.....wah, wah, wah".

Sometimes your team gets decisions go against it, sometimes they go for it, nobody dies.

The game survived for decades without Graham Poll in a pair of Beats, in front of a TV screen, filling up with his own piss and importance and at some level it will continue to do so.

 

Are you in favour of Third Umpire Reviews in cricket?

I think they generally enhance the enjoyment of watching.

Better decisions & an extra frisson during the review.

The decision process is the closest modern sport gets to striptease, all culminating in the big reveal as to whether the ball will hit the stumps.

The footie equivalent is, in comparison, flaccid.

 

Wrong.

 

Depends, run outs and stumpings where there is a clear enough picture to make a quick decision, then fair enough. I'm vehemently against reviewing catches, especially low catches, where the pictures are more likely to produce the wrong decision than the right one, as the disallowed Jason Roy catch the other day proved. But cricket has natural breaks and takes hours anyway, same as NFL, which benefits from video replays in some instances and is a sport designed around television anyway.

The only situation in which football benefits from technology is goal line decisions, which are instantaneous and clearly correct. The only other instance where I'd accept it might have value is for off-the-ball incidents, such as spitting or violent acts, if they could be reviewed in real-time and culprits punished immediately, rather than days later.

 

Play to the whistle?

 

The problem with offside is that the rules, as they are now, are bad. You can't blame VAR for that.

 

So did I.

 

I'd be more inclined to consider VAR as having some value, if someone could explain to me why it's soooooo important to get all these marginal decisions right (even if you accept, which I don't, that that's what would happen). Why is the outcome of a single match so important in your life? What difference does it really make, other than spoiling your weekend for a few hours every now and again? There'll be another game along soon enough, have a Freddo and watch Call the Midwife, you'll get over it.

The principal argument seems to be that there's a lot of money in football now, so there's more at stake. Yet invariably, the same people bemoan the amount of money in football and wish we were back in the Championship, playing more midweek games, so that makes no sense.

 

The Germans farkin hate it.

 

The Italians hated it at first but after a couple of months the referees started to use it better and has become less of a hindrance.

 

That's the most likely result. Once the refs are familiar and the kinks are worked out, everything will be much faster. Quite how much faster remains to be seen.

 

Looking forward to VAR being scrapped, hopefully the over analysis of the game will be the next to be thrown in the bin.

 

Never mind the armchair fans - why are we so concerned about pandering to thick f***s with short attention spans?

*Cue hilarious jokes about not reading all of this post.*

The genie is out of the bottle a bit with the whole 'VAR takes the controversy out of the game, which kills post match discussion' argument, as the simple answer to any subsequent bad refereeing decision is ' Well, VAR is available. Use that".

 

At least part of the problem is nearly every time its been tried a new referee has been on the field. I'm not sure what the FA are learning from rotating it around like that as all its showing up is that some referees are less decisive than others. Instead they should have concentrated on getting 2 or 3 referees really up to scratch with it, to see if VAR and they could become more efficient as time went on. They're also going to have to overcome the 'not showing controversial incidents on the big screen' rule which has been in place since the things were first introduced. It's always been a joke but more so with VAR running in matches.

There's also not enough FA Cup and other games to demonstrate it properly. Either the PL takes a risk and accepts a few weeks of high profile nonsense at the start of next season by going ahead, or it'll probably never happen in its current form.

 

So what happens when some football associations approve the use of VAR and others do not? That sounds like a horribly messed up situation. Imagine two clubs meeting in Europe. One used to having VAR, the other not.. and actually will it be used for Euro games? ​

 

Nope. It's no different to goal line tech now, which they don't have in La Liga.

 

So FIFA say yes but UEFA say no. That in itself seems pretty confused.
Have any football associations approved its use or is it still trials?

 

Trials until the IFAB sanctions it. Which seems likely to happen soon, in time for next season. Then it'll be up individual leagues/competitions to apply to use it.

 

Agreed. Also looking forward to watching yet another Watford defeat because of inept refereeing.

Still, I can have a moan about it in the pub or on here afterwards because, after all, thats the real fun part isn't it?

 

Yep.

 

I'm convinced Burnley would be at least 10 points and several goals better off this season with VAR.

 

With VAR in December alone we would have got a last gasp penalty v Spurs (+2 points if scored), Huddersfield's opener was offside (would have been a different game) and Swansea's equaliser was just offside (+3 points if we kept our heads). However in January our equaliser came off of Doucoure's hand (-1 point). So we'd have been at least 4 points better off, however had we got those points then Boa ConSilva would have still been charge, so swings and roundabouts.

 

We'll only get knocked out because we're rubbish!

But for me - no sin bins, no VAR, just leave it all well alone and get on with playing/watching football with all its human imperfections.

 

VAR will kill football. It won't be long before an advert is thrown in when a VAR decision is called for, and I'm talking about in the stadiums. I give you Watford FC as an example right now who already play an advert at full volume as soon as the half time whistle blows, (and I hate them for doing it). The fans aren't trusted as it is, (try and get a pint within view of the pitch at any stadium), so VAR decisions will never be shown at the game itself. You'll be sitting there waiting for that goal your team have just scored to be written off or waiting for them to give a goal so you can mutely celebrate 2 minutes later after listening to an advert at full volume, so you won't even be able to have a conversation, (10 minutes before every game now it's impossible to chat due to the high volume and overplayed video they play at the Vic).

If the above does materialise then what I knew as football is dead to me.

 

I can see your point. A mandatory 3 minute break for every VAR decision, just long enough for Ray winston to pop up with a gambling advert.

I hate the current need for constant noise before the game and at half time. It all stems from the canned laughter and fake cheering brigade. The X-factorisation of everything if you like.

 

You've put yourself in a box there m8, should have included playing games on the moon to make it unlikely.

 

There is a case for a punishment "between" one yellow card and two = red. Two yellows for fairly innocuous "professional" fouls should not perhaps result in the player leaving the field permanently - it seems harsh to equate that with a leg-breaking tackle or one that prevents a goal. I appreciate that the two yellows results in a one match ban where a straight red is three - but maybe there is case for a temporary "leaving the field" penalty for two yellows, with a third equating to a straight red.

Duncan Welbourne or Roger Joslyn would have destroyed any "sin bin".

Badly explained but I hope folks get the idea.

Var is a shambles as it stands - needs a limit of a 30 seconds at most before a decision is made - not sure how this could be achieved.

 

Has there been a proven incorrect decision from VAR? I mean, most people piss and moan about it taking too long but heartily cheer on their own team's timewasting, diving and rolling around on the ground.

Has a study been done to check on the cost to pubs if this is implemented? If its three pints, two shots and a fight for each bad decision talked about after a game, it'll probably result in the end of the industry.