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Discussion in 'Pozzo's Place' started by monicav, Jun 19, 2012.

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  1. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    I think they will have to bolster it with 'foreigners' or risk being thumped every match by the Welsh, Irish regions and Edinburgh/Scotland.

    I have thought instead of your seperate juniors champioship that an Italian selects team for the juniors ought to run in the National Championship.

    There were some odd choices for Emerging Italy in their tournament in Bucharest. Mateo Prattichetti for example cannot be called emerging anymore or top scorer at present Luciano Orquera. Romanias youngsters have shown some skill and fight and beat Emerging Italy 17-13 I think, but they also beat a pretty strong Jaguars team too.

    Nice to see them improving after two decades of decline. Brunel is surely just easing out the old staff and will be moving his own perhaps from his Perpignan days into place. He has to find a 10. Bochino has shown in fits and starts but needs to do more to cement his place.
     
  2. Rikkomas

    Rikkomas Academy Graduate

    Well again everything is well put Smudger

    but no Bocchino no; yes he is young, yes he is 100% born and breed italian but man, he's a liability

    He has more caps with the italian team then his clubs (he was not first choice 10 in the last 3 teams he played)
    We should get someone else at 10 Campagnaro, Della Rocca, Morisi and Esposito should come handy in the next years
     
  3. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Three of those kids should be moved from the second division into a Rabo12 team ASAP. Treviso should get their skates on or Parma. That said they were disappointing in the junior 6N mainly through a lack of tactical knowledge. Running when they shouldn't have and failing to kick when they should and when they did inaccurately.

    A skilled kicking coach or specialist should be brought in to work with them and analyze their performances. It can be done. Paolo Vaccari although he played at fullback was a supreme kicker and unlike the current incumbents solid like a rock. McLean is a bit vulnerable.

    They do switch a fair bit about too in positions which is good in one sense but bad in another because they don't get to find out all the nuances needed for their position. Only truly great players can do that say Hernandez from FB to FH or McCaw from openside flanker to number 8 or John Smit from prop to hooker and back.
     
  4. muzz

    muzz First Year Pro

    Paulo Vaccari, sign him up!! Can Lloyd Doyley borrow the kicking coach?
     
  5. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    I think Doyley wouldn't benefit now unless he want's to play for Sarries. ;) Paolo is retired from rugby in an active role anyway.
     
  6. simms

    simms vBookie

    Is it true that at Udine you get discounted tickets for women?

    Has this done anything to increase attendances?
     
  7. Pozzo Out

    Pozzo Out Squad Player

    More interestingly, do Udinese have any fit female fans?
     
  8. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    How clean are the prostitutes of Udine? Are their services varied and good value?
     
  9. Udinese

    Udinese First Year Pro

    1. yes but not in Curva Nord if I remember correctly
    2. probably a mix of reasons, also to encourage the presence of families and for a gentleman attitude

    @ the bazinator
    yes :)

    @moog
    no f.... clue!
     
  10. simms

    simms vBookie

    Ah thanks. The Curva nord is the singing section of the stadium is it?

    I think something similar could happen here, but im not sure that equality laws would allow it. It's a good idea though.
     
  11. Udinese

    Udinese First Year Pro

    yes Curva Nord is the singing section.
    Curva Sud is partly dedicated to the guest section and partly is not assecible (the stadium has about 40.000 seats, but the capacity has been reduced to about 30.000)
    Tribune is the covered side (place for authorities&C., old grumpies, and recently also for "new generation"
    Distinti is the section opposite the Tribune and is in great part the reign of AUC (associazione udinese club) more or less correspondent to your WST

    "new generation" is a project started a couple of years ago, to encourage the presence of kids (7-14), school groups, sport groups and so on; they basically have a free ticket, gudgets, meeting with the players before the match, pics, and a party with the squad at the end of the season http://www.udinese.it/new_generation.php
     
  12. Udinese

    Udinese First Year Pro

    Giuliana Pozzo, wife of Pozzo sen. is the one promoting projects like "new generation" and she has also started a charity project called UDINESE FOR LIFE

    you can find a list of their main activieties are listed here: http://www.udinese.it/ENG/udinese_per_la_vita.php
    but there are many others, they do on urgent necessities. To give you an example, when Udinese player on loan to Perugia, Permario Morosini, died on the playing ground last spring, Udinese4life together with Totò Di Natale, immediately activated to organize the support to Morosini's sister an orphan with serious handicapp
     
  13. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Thanks for the link Udinese.

    Looks like the foundation does a tremendous amount of work in promoting medical research and healthcare and underlines the role of the club as more than just a sports club , but an integral part of the life of Udine the town. All extremely creditable and to be applauded whole heartedly.

    Watford FC were the first English club to seriously undertake involvement in the community in the eighties and has a role in education, coaching and has in the past provided monies to medical projects at the local hospital which is actually next door to the ground itself.

    di Natale. He really is a lovely man. I respect footballers like these who do such work and others like Javier Zanetti for example who donate and raise large sums for charities in Argentina.
     
  14. Udinese

    Udinese First Year Pro

    the more I read about you the more I understand why Pozzo choose Watford, there are so many similarities between us.

    As for Totò, or Zanetti, or Roberto Baggio (FAO ambassador 2002, "Peace Summit Award 2010") are/were great players and also great men! They do things from heart and behind the courtains with no big press exposure. I will always admire them.
     
  15. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Udinese, do the Pozzo's or Udinese support official forums similar to this ? This is indipendant of the club, but I understand they like to involve the fans as part of their community
     
  16. Udinese

    Udinese First Year Pro

    I meant the Udinese faundation similar to your project in the 80's
    I mean also the fact that your WST is similar to our AUC and your forum very similar to the forum where I write fuarceudin.net, which is indipendent like yours.
     
  17. ForzaWatford

    ForzaWatford Squad Player

    How is the Pozzo model viewed by neutral football fans in Italy? Is it despised, or admired?
     
  18. Udinese

    Udinese First Year Pro

    It is veeeery admired, and many have tried or are trying to copy it, with not big results actually. Nobody can count on our network of talentscouts first of all. But then there are many other things involved. Also the environment plays a ceertain role. In a little town like ours there's not the same pressure that you can have in milan or rome or napoli, and this allows Pozzo to do things in his way with a slow but constant growth.
    Think about the word that Gino said today, assurance of the intent but flexible timing...
     
  19. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    The more I hear about Udinese and Granada, the more I can see why the Pozzo's chose WFC as the team they wanted to invest in!!!

    There is so much similarity between our clubs; I'm so happy to join the "Family" :party3:
     
  20. Udinese

    Udinese First Year Pro

    yes mate we are a family! forza watford!
     
  21. HelsinkiHorn

    HelsinkiHorn Academy Graduate

    it's shame the pre-season schedule is too late to add a WFC v. Udinese friendly match....next summer I hope!
     
  22. Udinese

    Udinese First Year Pro

    yes yes yeeeeesss! I'ma already excited by the thought of it.
     
  23. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    We could take it a step further and hold an annual round robin competition between the three clubs, taking it turn to be the hosts, and perhaps we could call it....

    "The Pozzo Cup"
     
  24. StefanoFromUdine

    StefanoFromUdine Academy Graduate

    Hello everybody,
    i was fooling around checking news on Udinese and decided to read what Watford supporters think about new ownership and found this forum that i immediatly liked because people seems good and happy to welcome the new italian members in the forum and more generally the new ownership. I read this discussion and have seen many questions of you guys to the italian fans of Udinese joined the forum but i haven't seen any clear and satisfying answer so i decided to try to answer to you all about how Pozzo manages his clubs etc... The first and most important thing is the talent scouting, i think i am telling the truth when i say that Udinese has the best talent scout program of the world, every year in Udine arrive 3 or 4 young unknown and cheap players and minimum 1 or 2 of them will be very good players that grew up and make experience in Udinese and when they are good and strong they are sold to big teams like Inter or Liverpool or Barcelona, and to answer to ForzaWatford Udinese in Italy is admired by supporters of other teams and the owners of other teams often say they want build their teams following the Udinese style that is buy cheap unknown but strong players to bring the team into the top and sell them to make profit some years later. So to answer to the most asked question... from Pozzo you have to expect for Watford to join as soon as possible the premier league (this year or the next one i think) and then get used to see many players pass throught Watford, they will arrive young and unknown and sold when will be strong, because Pozzo does not spend moneys for his football teams, he earns moneys with them! Plus as happened with Granada already, some reinforces will arrive from Udinese: young players that need to make experience, or players that don't have enough space here to play. He will not spend a lot of moneys to bring Watford to win the champiopnship or something but i really think from now on you can expect to stay permanently in the premier leaugue around mid ranking, an dsometimes maybe join europa league (but not before 4 or 5 years, if it really will happen). To answer to another question is why Udinese supporters look at Watford business with suspect cause they are scared that Pozzo is not interested anymore so much in Udinese and why he spent 25mln of euro to buy another team instead using the moneys to buy players for next champions leauge or the new stadium...but this already ahppened 2 years ago with Granada and all the suspects disappeared, and i am sure also this time there will be nothing to worry about. Ok as last thing i want to apologize for my bad english and for the too long post :p see you all soon
     
  25. nascot

    nascot First Team

    Welcome to the forum. There's nothing wrong with your English; it's better than some English speaking posters on here! And it's much better than 99% of the forum members Italian ;)
     
  26. simms

    simms vBookie

    Welcome Stefano. Thanks for answering some of the questions.

    May I ask do Udinese have any funny facts or trivia in their history?
     
  27. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Welcome Stefano, is anything being said in the Italian press about whether Zola has definitely been confirmed as our new manager, or is it just speculation, as it is here in England?
     
  28. StefanoFromUdine

    StefanoFromUdine Academy Graduate

    Thanks a lot for the big welcome :)
    About fun facts or trivia, well...in the season 2001-2002 (that was the worst season under Pozzo management) in the second to last match we were desperately fighting for remain in Serie A also next year and we had to play in Lecce, another team involved in that fight. We won 2-1 with a veeeeeeeery generous penalty kick that the referee assigned to us, so the last match at home against Juventus we got already the job done and played lazy against Juve that defeated us and won the championship thanks of this victory. As you probably know in 2006 the police found out that actually Juventus has been manipulated the italian championships for years and they found out that the penalty kick that gave us the "safety" 4 years before has been assigned under the forcing of Juventus manager because they wanted us to be safe already and so play lazy against them the next sunday so they could win the championship easily. Udinese was absolutely out of all this....but that means that we had to thank that the fate put us against Juve on the last match, or nobody knows what would happen....this is the only strange story i remember at moment, if something mroe comes in my mind i will post here :p about Zola our local news paper just says that he is very close to be the manager of Watford but nothing more than speculation for now, nothing confirmed. Another long post, sorry XD
     
  29. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Don't worry about the length of the post, and thanks for the information.

    Please keep it coming because we are not getting very much information in England at present, it is all speculation, we don't even know for sure if our existing manager, Sean Dyche, has left the club or not :confused:
     
  30. HelsinkiHorn

    HelsinkiHorn Academy Graduate

    @stefano I found your posts very interesting and thank you very much for the info! your english is very good. :sign15:

    Since Elton John stopped funding Watford(which took them up all the divisions) the club has only since survived at a reasonably high level by developing young players and selling them to bigger clubs for a profit. Now by joining up to a strong network with other clubs of a similar status and business plan I can see only benefits. Also Watford has recently been used to having loan players from bigger clubs and this has worked very well. I can see this together with the very admired and successful Watford Academy being very attractive to Mr Pozzo.

    Also Watford fans are quite patient and if success/promotion does not happen right away it will be ok. The main worry lately has been how financially insecure the club has been under recent owners but thankfully now this seems to be over. Maybe we will now finally have a new main grandstand and attract better players and more supporters.

    I think the key ingredient will be how the coach can get a new team with maybe many new faces coming and going to be successful in the hard world of English football. This seems to have worked for Granada though and I hope this experience can be used at Watford.

    Anyway, it's exciting times and it is great to now be part of a big stable footballing family now rather than be in the hands of some shady local businessman with no football background, no PR skills and with many big unanswered questions hanging over him. It seems clear the Pozzo family are interested in long term football success rather than taking a big risk with other peoples money just to make a profit and leave to find another business venture.

    Forza Watford/Udinese/Granada!
     
  31. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    More or less my sentiments Helsinki :sign15:
     
  32. StefanoFromUdine

    StefanoFromUdine Academy Graduate

    Hello everybody,
    thanks helsinki for your words, and don't worry voice of reason, i will keep coming here for infos eheheh.
    First thing yesterday Pozzo himself said at sky sport italia that for Zola at Watford is almost done, they agreed on words and only the signatures on contracts are missing but is just matter of a little time, and Pozzo talks only if is really really necessary or if the things are really true, but for sure your previous coach Dyche left the club July 2nd, so if the things will not end with Zola it means a serious sudden thing happened. Another news that newspaper says today, but is just rumor, is that probably the player Neuton (brazilian defender) will be loaned to Watford, and i think is just the first one of some players. That's all i know for now :p i am thinking to buy via internet a Watford shirt now ahahah. See you soon and let's keep talk and ask me whatever you want know about Udinese and Pozzo (btw today we are quite upset here 'cause yesterday he sold our goalkeeper to Inter, and as usual with preliminary match of Champions League coming he is selling many players) Talk soon ;)
     
  33. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Un caloroso benvenuto Stefano. Your English is very good much better than my Italian I regret to say.

    Yes rather disappointing but inevitable in a way Handanovic was sold before a CL campaign.

    I am pretty certain the vast majority of Hornets will give the new model and management time to suceed and get things right and not expect manna from heaven immediately.

    I think if we polled the forum most would be quite content to roll around in the middle of the EPL (until the financial tables are changed or salary caps or something similar came in if it ever did) with a well respected academy.

    It is being reported Adolfo Sormani head of the Napoli primavera is being lined up as Zola's assistant and his Neapolitan links would help smooth relations with Zola of course being a former player of that club. Perhaps he will also have a role with regards to our academy at Harefield in exposing kids here to the footballing culture in Italy and also at the Granada cantera.

    Forza Bianconeri, Forza Calabroni, Forza Granada. :)
     
  34. lay-pack

    lay-pack Academy Graduate

    hello mates. i'm another udinese fan. fear this is getting closer to a little invasion, innit? but we're polite and don't really make any disturbing noises. not even at the stadium. lol. glad to know you all.
     
  35. Prisc

    Prisc Academy Graduate

    Hi lay-pak
    I don't know.
    Are you sure you don't make some disturbing noises after eating some "panini con luanje" at the Dalco?
     

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