Vladimir Ivic

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  1. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    When the Watford job inevitably becomes vacant each time, anyone who puts their money on Hughton may as well burn it. I've said it each time - his promotions aside, he's just all wrong for a number of reasons in terms of what we are seemingly trying to do as a club.
     
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  2. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

  3. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    I agree, I think that anyone worrying the appointment would be boring/uninspiring was worrying unnecessarily. It was never going to be the case, more the bookies speculating and some of the media outlets making stuff up for clicks. Just because Hughton is linked it doesn’t mean the club was ever even close to considering him. Pearson was a break from convention (and reappointing QSF but there were extenuating circumstances) But all our other managerial appointments have had logic behind them and also initial success, unfortunately as we know the major hurdle has been to continue that success for any length of time.
     
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  4. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Miserable looking ****er. I like him.
     
  5. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

  6. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Puel was the odd one. Still managing in his homeland in the top division. Never had a story written where it seemed there was any mutual interest - yet he was straight in as favourite and always in amongst the top 5 or 6 in the odds. Just seemed placed there by bookies for whatever reason.
     
  7. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I'd immediately put £500,000 on Puel. That's why. Win some, lose some. When the fun stops, stop.
     
  8. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Puel? Fool!
     
  9. Cude>2<

    Cude>2< First Team Captain

    And didn't he have the highest points per game ratio of any of our Prem managers? (Or at least close to it)
     
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  10. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Just had this feeling. Can't win everytime or it would just become boring. I'll soon forget it if the £750,000 on Pakistan to be bowled out for less than 100 before lunch comes in.
     
  11. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    Very good points and hard work , team ethic, organisation are basics but essential if you want success as Roy Keane might say. If every team in a division gives 100% in every game then it will be the teams with the best talent that will have the most success.

    Can the new boss motivate his squad to give everything for the cause whilst simultaneously ridding the changing room of bad influences?.

    However he does look like the type of chap that will say " we can resolve our differences like gentlemen
    or we can sort it out in the car park, and afterwards, either way, we shall agree that I was right !"
     
  12. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    I would try and lay that if I were you !!!
     
  13. magyarorszag

    magyarorszag Squad Player

    Have Watford fans really been put through so much **** that they're creaming themselves over a manager who doesn't speak English and has 3 seasons experience in obscure 1 team leagues? 2 seasons in Israel and 1 terrible season in Greece 40 points off the top spot. What's with all the positive comments about his record? It sounds like you're all trying to convince yourselves. Bizarre appointment IMO but it does stick to the Pozzos theme of hiring some nobody from abroad

    Edit: Yes he speaks very good English
     
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  14. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    He clearly does speak English, far better than Jokanovic, Sannino, Quique, Silva, Mazzarri (lol).
     
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  15. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Squad Player

    The Israeli league is far from a 1 team league. Maccabi hadn't won a title in three years when he took over, they went on to win it by over 30 points.
     
  16. magyarorszag

    magyarorszag Squad Player

    Okay it's a 2 team league, in Israel of all places. A quick google shows the last appearance of an Israeli team in europe results in being knocked out by a team from Lithuania
     
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  17. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Squad Player

    Haifa, Beer Sheva, Beitar all regularly win titles. In Israel of all places? What is that supposed to mean?
     
  18. Guy

    Guy Squad Player

    So would you prefer a Pulis, Pardew, Hughton, Allardyce type appointment?
     
  19. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    I've always found the Serbs to be most friendly and welcoming, and to be most relaxed about what they called the "misunderstanding" that resulted in NATO bombing Belgrade.

    But after one meeting with Serbian civil servants that finished early, we were treated to a tour of the city by car. As we passed the Red Star ground, this nice young woman pointed out the homm of "Mr Arkan". "You know Mr Arkan, the war hero?" I think she meant Mr Arkan the war criminal, but I didn't say so.

    I suspect that in the countryside the locals might be less tolerant than the officials and business people in the cities.
     
  20. magyarorszag

    magyarorszag Squad Player

    I'm being racist obviously

    Israel aren't exactly giants in European football. We're looking to get back to the premier league, we could do without yet another obscure manager with little to no experience
     
  21. magyarorszag

    magyarorszag Squad Player

    Hughton would have been a much better appointment than some random serbian bloke who has only spent 2 seasons in Israel and 1 in Greece
     
  22. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Squad Player

    I think you are going to be pleasantly surprised.
     
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  23. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    He went from Greece to Israel, so to go from losing a league by 40 points to winning one by 30 is how you’d want it surely?
     
  24. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Hahahahaha. Good one.
     
  25. magyarorszag

    magyarorszag Squad Player

    It's like when people realise their wife is doing them dirty and they're trying to convince themselves its not true and everything is okay, actually it's for the best!
     
  26. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    If he truly was a random Serbian bloke he’d be a 57 year old plumber, or maybe a 26 year old IT consultant.
     
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  27. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Be announced with the new kit ?
     
  28. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    If he is then it will be a simultaneous announcement and resignation I’d imagine.
     
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  29. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    A lot of Prem managers could once have been described as "some random bloke"
    Mourinho, Nuno Santos ,Klopp etc would once have been met with "who he ?"
     
  30. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Seem you’d rather the alternative - when people realise their marriage is in trouble and needs a spark - so they suggest its best they go and choose a new ironing board.
     
  31. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Yes, but the point is that he has been getting the best out of the players he's got.
     
  32. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Hopefully he won't have to wait too long to find out what sort of squad he will have to work with.

    Be a few coming and goings over the next few weeks.

    Might take a while for him to get his ideas heard.
     
  33. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Stick with it. I've heard Puel will be announced first.
     
  34. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    Edit: Yes he speaks very good English[/QUOTE]
    He speaks very good English. I know how strange seeing so many positive comments about a manager that
    It was hardly a terrible season in Greece, he took over PAOK in March and they were hardly favourites to win the league anyhow, they had not won the league since the mid 80's, he also won the Greek cup. Hapoel had won the league in Israel for 3 years in a row befor Ivic took over at Tel Aviv, Haifa and Beitar Jerusalem have also been regular challengers for the title. Whatever way you look at it losing 2 games in 2 years is a magnificent record.

    He does not seem like a bizarre appointment to me going on what Scott Duxbury said we were looking for Ivic seems to tick a lot of boxes. From the research I have done it seems that he works closely with young players and likes to give them game time and he demands exceptional discipline, he is supposedly hard as nails as well.
     
  35. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    I've been on a mini break - come back and hear this! Fantastic news and a great appointment. Let's hope he lives up to the hype and is able
    to motivate what is left of the spineless turds from last seasons run in. Could either be a new dawn or a false dawn like Silva, but I am hoping
    for the former rather than the latter.
     
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