Discussion in 'Pozzo's Place' started by rojiblancohorizontal, Jun 19, 2012.
FT! Very good! 3 points away is a wonderful start.
...and the three points are safely on their way back to Andalucia!
Well done cousins!
Finished! We start the 2013/2014 season with 3 points! Great!
Next monday at home against Real Madrid. A match for keeping 1st place in table!
You did it last season. You can do it again! :mengoal:
Something nice about the match against Osasuna (apart from the 3 points). The "Pozzo" style start workings:
- Murillo, signed 2 years ago, on the starting 11 and doing great.
- Fatau, who was last year in 2ºB, plays for first time in La Liga. He is one of the pre-season revelations.
- Alvaro Garcia also plays for last time in La Liga, he will play in Granada B & Granada.
Also, We sold Mikel Rico 3M€ (we sign him 3 years ago, 600.000€).
We will sell Siqueira for 7-8M. He came from Udine for free.
Pozzo style of: Signing cheap young, sell good, will start to "give the fruits" (Spanish expression, don't know if it work there), 5 years from now.
Excellent job and well done, would be amazing to get something off real next
Ighalo and Recio are about to sign another loan. Will be the 4th time Ighalo come on loan after he says: "I want to try another team". Seems Ighalo is made for Granada and Granada is made for Ighalo.
Also, Real Madrid and Granada will talk on monday (match day) about Siqueira signing. We want just money, they want to give us Cherisev on loan (with no signing chance)
Good news about the signings.
And tell Real that the Pozzo triad wants MONEY! Not stupid loans to increase the value of other teams' players. That's what WE do, giving on loan to Hercules, Siena, Empoli etc.
Pozzo's teams ARE NO FU***NG FEEDER'S CLUBS!
They are a strong federation of teams!
DO YOU HEAR THAT FLORENTINO?? INSERT CHERISEV IN A DEEP HOLE AND GIVE US MONEY!!
We should tell him that, and I think Pina will do
¡Caray! 0-1 down vs Real Madrid after only 10 mins. Benzema. Come on cousins. You can pull this round.
Granada 0 - 1 Real Madrid. Stolen by a referee who "didn't see" the penalty to Buonanotte.
Today Granada CF was a team, im proud of them, we can do nice things this season. Also, Cristiano is having nightmares with Nyom. HE SHALL NOT PASS!!
Agreed Roji - Madrid were surprisingly dirty weren't they?
How the ref didn't give that penalty at the end I really don't know and then to book one of the Granada players for his protests was the added insult.
Still, as you say, very good omens for the season ahead. I don't think you'll be worrying about relegation this season!
LOL, I didn't figure the Nyom vs Ronaldo clash like this:
But really, it was a very good match and you should have earned a draw. A quite good beginning of season I'd say.
That non-call was awful. Of all the teams in that league who don't need that sort of coddling, Real Madrid is one (of two). Granada had their hands full, but deserved a point. Shameful.
No embedding allowed so you'll have to watch it there. Buonnanotte was clearly brought down by Casemiro. But of course Los Blancos get the decision. As is usual with the old Firm in La Liga.
Celta 1 - 1 Granada CF
Piti scored in a bad game of Granada CF where only Nyom, Iturra, Piti and Buonanotte saves their act but we get a important point against a direct enemy.
4 points in a hard start: Osasuna (A), Madrid (H), Celta (A). Now, the FIFA stop and then, against Espanyol at home.
That's a decent point away from home Roji.
Vigo beat Real Betis on their own patch last time out and seem quite strong this time round.
Piti has had an excellent start to this season. Hope he carries on in the same vein. Little Diego is also starting to impress. Hope he continues to weave his magic although the chances of him ever being selected for the seleccion are minimal.
Hard transfer day:
- We don't know if Siqueira will leave or not
- We don't know if Aranda will leave or no
- Maybe we sign Corchia
- Maybe we sign another player more
Over here, there are reports that Siqueira will almost definitely join either Man Utd or Everton.
Has joined Benfica on loan apparently.
Don't think it's gone through, Spanish press reporting he'll join Real in the winter.
Finally he is on loan on Benfica, Real Madrid operation wasn't made by minutes.
He was due to replace Coentrao but the paperwork was not finalized in time. He will be missed. Never mind.
Away at Real Betis this morning (11am kick off).
9/2 on the cheeky little away win if anyone fancies it.
As for this lot...are they equal in standing to us as Udinese? We've already beaten 'em so we are higher up the pecking order than them presumably. Think that makes them our nieces.
On Sky Sports Extra monday night. I'll run a shoutbox.
This does make La Liga look less than fair. Elche cheated out of a deserved point....
I was watching the match live and it was an absolute travesty of a decision.
The referee Muniz has been dropped off the refereeing panel. Apparently he has been under stress. Although he has a history of making bizarre decisions usually in favour of the old Firm.
By the excellent Sid Lowe.....get him on the Beeb for the World Cup please instead of tepid teabag Owen.
At seven minutes past midnight the police finally arrived. "We've had over 120 mentions about football in the last 10 minutes," ran the tweet from Spain's Policía Nacional. "Remember," it continued, adding a smiley face at the end, "we're here to help you on questions of SAFETY ". It wasn't hard to imagine what had happened and it wasn't hard to imagine them having a good giggle down the station: "Hello, police? Yes, I want to report a robbery." Very soon, everyone was reporting a robbery. Here we go again.
It was right in the middle of an 11-day stretch of consecutive games, weeks five, six and seven running into each other. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, with Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday to come, and Real Madrid were at newly promoted Elche, back in the first division for the first time in almost a quarter of a century. Cristiano Ronaldo's free-kick had gone through the wall to give Madrid the lead and the clock was ticking away. Carlo Ancelotti had sent on Dani Carvajal and Asier Illarramendi to protect a precarious lead but his side seemed on course for another three points.
Madrid had not played well. Elche, on the other hand, had. Diego López had made two sharp saves. "I'm not happy about the performance. If we play like that against Atlético we won't win," Ancelotti would say afterwards. "Elche deserved a draw." Then in the 91st minute Fidel Chaves, the only footballer to be named after two Latin American lefties, provided the cross and the Ghanaian forward Richmond Boakye headed in the equaliser. Boakye hopped over the advertising boards and did a dance in front of the fans. The Martínez Valero stadium erupted. They were about to get their draw after all; Madrid were slipping four points off the top.
But then in the 96th minute, it happened. Madrid had a corner, Pepe and Carlos "The Rock" Sánchez grappled with each other. Pepe saw his opportunity: grabbing Sánchez's arm, he tumbled backwards, pulling the defender on top of him, falling to the floor, arms up in an appeal, eyes looking longingly at the referee, Jellyhead himself, César Muñiz. Accused this week by the former referee Paradas Romero of being protected by the referees' chief at the cost of others and the man who disallowed a Sevilla goal at Camp Nou earlier this season, Muñiz gave the penalty and Ronaldo scored.
Elche already felt a little hard done by – Ronaldo's opening goal came from a questionable free-kick and Sergio Ramos had been fortunate not to pick up a second yellow card – and now this. At the full-time whistle their players surrounded the referee. Now, the cards came out. Yellows for Manu Herrera, Rubén Pérez and Edu Albácar, red for Sánchez. On the touchline, Pepe was asked about it: "It was a penalty," he said. When Muñiz left the stadium he did so under police guard, insults flying. "He sent me off: if I heard right just because he felt like it," said the Elche manager, Fran Escribá, "but I don't want to talk about him: I don't want to make him the protagonist."
Everyone else would. For now, at least.
"It's a robbery," said the Elche captain, Albácar. Half an hour or so later, Albácar was asked again, on the radio show Al Primer Toque. "If anything, [the anger] is worse now," he said, "because I've seen the replay of the penalty and it's lamentable ... the robbery is huge. Pepe says it's a penalty? Then he's blind. I've just seen it again and it's a yellow card – for him. If he has so little shame as to say that it's a penalty, he's either lying or he's blind." Then Albácar added: "If it had been the other way round, the repercussion would be huge."
And that was the point. Albácar was right ... and wrong. The repercussion was huge anyway and the battle, the debate, was about to look pretty familiar. Gerard Piqué was on the sofa at home. "Watching a film on Canal Plus Liga: it's a comedy," he tweeted. "That's always good at this time of night." Soon Alvaro Arbeloa, Piqué's international team-mate, responded with a photo from the team bus: "Great victory, and I'm pleased that some people have swapped the theatre for films." The retweet count grew and grew: twenty thousand, thirty, forty, fifty, sixty ... a familiar face-off.
In Catalonia, the presses were held, the covers redesigned. Sport's front cover would read: "What a robbery!" El Mundo Deportivo adapted the familiar chant to run with: "That's how Madrid win!"
This round of games threw up some interesting stories and impressive performances. Francisco Portillo offered a superb display and brilliant goal for Málaga. Rayo Vallecano boasted 62% of possession against Sevilla but lost 4-1, just as they had more of the ball against Atlético, Málaga and Barcelona (the first side to do so in five years) but lost all of those games too, with an aggregate score of 1-18. "Other teams don't hurt us, we hurt ourselves," the coach, Paco Jémez, said. Diego Costa scored two more as Atlético won again, making it six wins out of six, and the Spanish Football Federation asked if this Brazilian could play for them. After all the debate about style and identity – "a debate that is always greater if you're not from here or a Dutchman," said Tata Martino – Barcelona were briefly at their best again, beating Real Sociedad. And Adil Rami was kicked out of the Valencia squad as Miroslav Djukic slowly takes control and his side won a second successive game, this time with a 95th-minute winner.
But the focus was Muñiz. It was a pity, as Escribá suggested, to make him the protagonist. But it did pose worthwhile questions: about the standard of refereeing, about the apparent "ease" with which some decisions are given compared to others; about gamesmanship; about whether this is yet another advantage enjoyed by the big sides, "always helped" by referees; about the way the media agenda is tilted, making some mistakes more important than others, and the way two teams dominate; about the audiences and the kind of stories that move them. It was also inevitable: last night there was only one subject that dominated; in the morning there was too. Just as it was inevitable that, rather than blaming the player who laid the trap, most blamed the referee who fell into it; just as it was inevitable that the debate should be seen through their eyes.
From Barcelona's point of view, this was a big deal of course and their fate is not only in their hands but in the hands of Madrid: two points dropped would have likely had a significant impact on the title race. But Barcelona were not playing. For a team like Elche, who may well be fighting relegation at the end of the season, the lost point could be just as significant yet they could be forgiven for thinking that it was insignificant. They were centre-stage because of whom they played, not who they are. Muñiz's last mistake was brought up, or at least the last mistake that really got talked about: the goal he wrongly took off Sevilla at Camp Nou. It was not the same as this, but there it was – a decision that had led the Madrid papers when it happened. So, went the Madrid line, you can stop complaining; we were robbed too. It's 1-1. Barcelona versus Madrid, Piqué versus Arbeloa, the whole circus. Referees help Madrid. No, referees help Barcelona. Barcelona are their victims. No, Madrid are.
Or perhaps Sevilla and Elche are.
You can get 11/5 on Granada to get an overdue home win against those bustads from Bilbao just kicking off now.....
Good price. Live on the usual streams.
Now 2-0 up and cruising with 20 mins to go. Easy money.....
A very good and important win. It seems low to have 8 points after 7 matches, but in Liga as usual the great ones run like hell eating to the average points of all the others. So it's already a 5 points lead on the 18th. Good!
..and safely home with a 2-0 win. Both goals from El Arabi - one a penalty.
Our cousins are up to 12th now with a very nice three points. Bien hecha y felicidades hermanos!
Good work from our cousins, looking good at the moment and hope they can keep it up