Gracia Out

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by GoingDown, Apr 7, 2018.

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Should JG go?

  1. Yes, now?

    42 vote(s)
    46.2%
  2. No? He deserves a chance to get us out of the championship?

    1 vote(s)
    1.1%
  3. Not yet. If we lose to Newcastle?

    28 vote(s)
    30.8%
  4. If we are bottom at Christmas?

    7 vote(s)
    7.7%
  5. If we go 10 games without a win?

    13 vote(s)
    14.3%
  1. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

  2. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    It's all we deserve for daring to dream.

    Minnows, when will they learn?
     
  3. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    It'd be cheaper to take the tube.
     
  4. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Manager of the season? Javi not even in the running.

    If we win the FA Cup and finish 9th, from a side that were everyone's tip for relegation, I think he deserves to be there.

    Poch is likely to go out in the semi and Klopp is likely to win nothing. If we win the FA Cup, then only Watford and Man City would have actually won something domestically this season from the EPL.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Well a lot of pundits were suggesting Warnock of Cardiff had stayed up .

    Probably be whoever wins the league as usual .
     
  6. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    It’s a Premier League prize though so the FA Cup run won’t be a part of the consideration. Basically, the winner of our game with Wolves on the 27th also won a nomination for this.
     
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  7. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Good point re FA Cup. However, I think Nuno would have been above Gracia regardless of Wolves' final position. I think the fact they took points off a lot of top sides in their first season was the reason he was chosen.
     
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  8. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Yes, the manager with the largest resources and best players, deserves to win...…..!!!

    I think they should apply some kind of final position against wages, as a key factor in deciding who should win this. Basically the manager getting the most bang for buck from his team.
     
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  9. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Aggred - think Moyes won it once when Everton came 4th and Steve Coppell when Reading finished 8th in their season.
     
  10. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    Our wage bill is much higher than wolves so that beardy **** deserves it ahead of gracia
     
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  11. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    They have to think of the children who might see the pen pics too.
     
  12. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! First Year Pro

    Poch getting a nomination ahead of Our Javi? Lol, just lol
     
  13. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    I think that would be Nuno, then.
     
  14. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    This aged well.
     
  15. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! First Year Pro

    Good thing Champions League games have no bearing on this!
     
  16. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Wolves manager to win it, no debate really.

    We'll finish 11th if we lose to West Ham, not surprising that Javi wasn't nominated.
     
  17. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    I think a true Manager of the Season award should encompass all competitions that a manager has competed in.

    If Liverpool win the league and Champions League, then Klopp should win. If Liverpool come runners up in EPL and CL, then he shouldn't win.
    If Spurs win the CL as well as finishing top 4, then Poch should win. If Spurs lose the CL then he shouldn't win.
    If Man City win the league and FA Cup, then Pep should win as City would have won the treble. If City fail to win the league then he shouldn't win, even if they pick up both domestic trophies.
    Wolves have already finished 7th, and this may or may not qualify them for European football. I thinks it worthy of being mentioned as a notable achievement, but not enough to win the manager of the season award.
    If Watford win the FA Cup and finish 9th, again, it's another notable achievement, probably better than Wolves, but not worthy of winning the manager of the season award.

    However, I consider Watford's potential achievement better than Wolves, or at the very least on par with them. If Nuno is nominated, then so should Javi......IMO.

    I think Pep will win overall, as I believe City will win the treble.
     
  18. reids

    reids Squad Player

    So the FIFA world coach of the year award then? It's not really surprising premier league manager of the year focuses on....the premier league.
     
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  19. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Will the manager finishing 11th in the EPL have a chance of winning it though? Certainly a bigger achievement than Wolves IMO
     
  20. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist

    Should be calculated by dividing the league position by transfer spend in the last 2 windows.

    Then doing something clever with pi.
     
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  21. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Zola of the Premier League. No plan b. A questionable plan a. Thinks we played well in a 6-0 defeat in a cup final. Delusional.

    Get rid.
     
  22. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Game plan A:

    Play 4-4-2 no matter the opposition, take off Deulofeu after an hour despite being by far our most dangerous attacker, bring Success on for the final 5-10 minutes, stand on the touchline looking gormless and confused

    Game plan B:

    What?
     
  23. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    What gets me is that versus wolves he looked like he had a plan by saving deulofeu till later. It was a masterstroke.

    Then in every single match since he's been absolutely brainless. Really strange.
     
  24. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Back to normal, Gracia out!
     
  25. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    This has aged well
     
  26. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I think he's capable of keeping us up next season. Nothing more. This season was a fluke, exposed at the end for what he is, a nice man who didn't make our precious players down tools until April for once.
     
  27. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    “This has aged well” is the go to quote for 2019.

    If you don’t use it, then you’re not in with the groovy kids.
     
  28. Squibba

    Squibba Predictor Choker 14/15

    That was an accident, Gray scored for like three home games in a row I think? Including the quarter-final winner at Palace. He had to play him.
     
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  29. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Spoken like someone whose posts have repeatedly not aged well.
     
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  30. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    A bit like your jokes.
     
  31. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Javi Gracia isn’t actively considering leaving Watford, however if he was to receive an ‘interesting proposal’ then a move away wouldn't be ruled out. He’s open to hearing news from his agent. Real Betis and Sevilla have shown an interest in Gracia. [@Estadio_ED] #watfordfc
     
  32. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    At last, some good news.
     
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  33. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Javi angling for a raise out of Gino.

    I accuse him of being an optimist.
     
  34. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

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  35. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! First Year Pro

    Local media indicates they want to announce their manager very soon which would probably put paid to that. Betis also have a managerial vacancy, though not an awful lot of talk on Gracia as of yet from what I've seen
     

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