Gracia Out

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by GoingDown, Apr 7, 2018.

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Should JG go?

  1. Yes, now?

    42 vote(s)
    46.2%
  2. No? He deserves a chance to get us out of the championship?

    1 vote(s)
    1.1%
  3. Not yet. If we lose to Newcastle?

    28 vote(s)
    30.8%
  4. If we are bottom at Christmas?

    7 vote(s)
    7.7%
  5. If we go 10 games without a win?

    13 vote(s)
    14.3%
  1. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Exactly. Two pretty similar clubs on very similar trajectories and with similar ambitions. Yet their churn of managers barely ever gets mentioned.
     
  2. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Their are ryvels
     
  3. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Well isn’t Saint Eddie Howe the longest serving PL manager or something? And obviously they’ve only been in the league as long as we have.

    So pretty much all premier league clubs churn through managers as quickly as we do, it’s just the norm.
     
  4. Jossy

    Jossy Reservist

    Since our current spell in the Premier League - Everton have had more managers/head coaches than us (5 compared to our 4).
     
  5. wingco

    wingco Reservist

    Gracia in.

    Hopefully the first coach under the Pozzo's to be given a contract extension
     
  6. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Someone will have to explain to Gino what that is first.
     
  7. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Gino can just talk to Pr*dl.
     
  8. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I'm gonna bump this in preparation for failing to beat Bournemouth and obvious substitutions not being made.

    I want to be on the bandwagon early.
     
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  9. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Moog you kept your promise from the shout box. Good on you. :p
     
  10. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    Bournemouth at home is always a draw. Might as well just give us the point now.
     
  11. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    I guess he's not the messiah afterall.

    The man utd defeat looks like a dreadful result now too.
     
  12. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Only complaint is that he doesnt make subs quickly enough.
     
  13. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    I still fondly remember the 6-1.
     
  14. Won't be an issue with Bournemouth. We'll be 4-0 up before we need to make any subs this weekend.
     
  15. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    I remember beating then 3-2 in 1972 with Jimmy Lindsay scoring!
     
  16. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Bournemouth will be Gracias most important game yet (already dusting down the Head Coach out banner), lose and he may as well resign, win and he'll he alright until the next match.
     
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  17. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    I would like to be the first to call for whoever is manager in Xmas 2019 to be sacked, due to incompetence, tactical ineptitude and generally not liking the cut of his jib.

    Cant state the managers name as I have no idea who it ll be by then.
     
  18. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Spoiler alert - it's "Pardew".
     
  19. Eastcoastorn

    Eastcoastorn First Year Pro

    I don't remember the game but that was my first time at The Vic. It was sunny and I sat on the Vicarage Rd terracing.
    I had gone to Chelsea and West Ham before that with my Dad but it was love a first sight
     
  20. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    I personally think he doesn't make his subs quick enough. Anyone else agree?
     
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  21. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Only if you agree to start off a thread to discuss what has been swept under the carpet by the general forum.

    Did we or did we not sell FF and/or Vydra a tad too early?
     
  22. Ybotcoombes

    Ybotcoombes Justworkedouthowtochange

    At least he makes them unlike some of our previous managers
     
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  23. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    In my book that’s not a question that requires any discussion.
     
  24. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Could do a job for us, tbf.
     
  25. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    About bloody time that we secured his services. Forum has been crying out for him for years. The media will actually like us.
     
  26. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    If we get Pardew Ill no longer be the greyest person at The Vic, so a yes from me.
     
  27. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    If we go for Pardew over Souness, I dread to think how Stuboy will react. He’d be justified in his outrage, mind you.
     
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  28. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Gurning imbecile
     
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  29. StuBoy

    StuBoy Forum Cad and Bounder

    Souness in. It’s time to get back on the wagon.
     
  30. Hasn't shown he can adapt to the opposition, is incapable of making timely changes, and his brand of football has reverted to 'hoof to Deeney' in the last couple of matches and isn't even that good to watch

    Gino needs to think again
     
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  31. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    Maybe I was right after all ;););)
     
  32. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    The gurning simpleton has been well and truly found out. Same tired starting eleven. Same woeful subs at the wrong time. Same dress sense as a homeless eastern european.

    His stupid bewildered expression is really going to get on my pips this season.
     
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  33. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    We all assumed he was a stop gap initially from ssssilva leaving to keep us up and see us through to the end of last season. He did that.

    His transfers in the summer were O.K at best, but a lack of a new striker and CB is beginning to rear its head again. Whether this is more down to Gino and finds being released is not known.

    Like has been said time and time again his lack of a plan b in a game is going to get us into trouble if it continues. We will get results like yesterday’s atrocity of a performance occasionally, but it’s how we react.

    Do we go to Molineux now with a plan if we trail 1-0 at the break? Will he change the system and bring on Chalobah it Delafoo to change it up and get us a grip on the game? I’m not sure he can really. Even with a quite injury free season so far, our discipline record is atrocious.

    Whether that is down to bad refereeing or just a lack of cool heads is always up for debate, but some of the blame falls back to Gracia for poor game management.

    He has improved us in some areas and the football in the whole is entertaining to watch, but we have not been taking chances. We can pass the ball around all match but goals earn points. Deeney and Gray are very hot and cold.

    Can we at least change the formation at Wolves? Perhaps a 3-4-2-1? Give Chalobah a chance in that formation where we know our midfield can work the best.Hughes in the middle and Peyera always plays better in a more central role. Since Holebas is suspended get Mapps in and possibly Wilmott? We have a good squad of player who can play well when the formation is right.

    When a new game rolls around, look at the opposing side. See what formation they tide and try to counter it.

    Simple football logic. Gracia is more than capable of doung this. That is what worries me the most though, that he won’t.
     
  34. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    The criminal lack of investment in the central defence over the summer is nothing to do with Gracia. I find it hard to give him any grief when the defence implodes. Gracia plays the hand he has been given by Pozzo. He is an average manager who has been given a very average squad by the owner.
     
  35. The squad is more than good enough not to get turned over 4-0 at home to muff. This is all on the grinning idiot. He put Kabasele and Cathcart into a no win situation with his dumb ass tactics, everyone knows Howe's favoured tactic of overloading the wings, yet we still had Pereyra and Hughes playing inside, Holebas wandering all over the pitch taking corners and throw ins but rarely in his left back position, and Femenia who's an offensive wing back not a defensive full back. Gracia handed the wide areas to muff on a plate.
     

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