Gomes - New 1 Year Deal

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Burnsy, Jun 28, 2019.

  1. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

  2. Carpster

    Carpster Reservist

    Excellent news. Can put the Olsen rumour to bed now. Thank eff for that.
     
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  3. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    Seems an odd decision to me. He did well in the cup run, but things seemed to have finally caught up with him by the time the cup final came around. It'd also be surprising if Bachmann isn't seen as ready to step up yet to at least be back up, considering he's just completed a full season of first team football while winning a number of plaudits - unless he's going to go on loan again..

    I can only hope that Gomes is just being kept on to help JP settle in when he arrives.
     
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  4. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Fantastic news. And I sincerely hope he never plays another game for the club. Get Dahlberg out on loan and give Bachmann the no 2 spot.
     
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  5. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    Yeah, who needs players in their peak years when we've got a squad full of either soon past-it has-beens like Foster and Gomes, or prospects still far too young to really be expected to make an impact, and where it's not even obvious that they'll ever even be good enough, such as Dahlberg?!

    Same story with most of our team really.
     
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  6. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Must be sending one of the other 2 younger goalies out on loan again.

    DB reckons he can challenge Foster for the number one spot - is he in for a surprise?
     
  7. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    If going to Falkirk is a surprise then probably a massive one.
     
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  8. Carpster

    Carpster Reservist

    Until they're tested we won't know if they're good enough. Expect Gomes as third choice helping out with the young South Americans and Bachmann as number 2.
     
  9. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Olsen has had a very poor season and Foster has enough time left before handing over to Bachmann or Dahlberg. It would be a waste of precious funds buying another GK with no real reason to do so. In my opinion, this is a prudent move by the club - if the idea is to promote Bachmann or Dahlberg to No.2 and have Gomes as No.3 and a mentor to others.

    Being young doesn’t equate to being not good enough. Your comments about Dahlberg are the same as Cucho - you seem very reluctant to believe that they should be given a chance. Not sure why.
     
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  10. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

  11. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Or Mrs Gomes.
     
  12. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    With Dahlberg I have absolutely no idea whether he will or won't be good enough, even less so than most of our other youngsters as I've never seen him play.

    However, it's obvious that he's very unproven and not seen as ready yet by the club (he's not played a single minute for us).

    I've got nothing against our young players being given a chance - that's a completely different thing from my opinion of Cucho not having shown himself as being good enough for us yet in the matches he has played in over the last season.
     
  13. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Pleased he's staying. He's such a positive influence in the dressing room and will help Pedro a lot when he joins.
     
  14. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

  15. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    No, a carrot contract round Pereyra's house.
     
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  16. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Poor regressive move. Way past it.
     
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  17. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    As for Foster, I'm concerned about him for next season. He was one of our worst performers at the end of the last one, and that's saying something. Combined with his supposed inability to train fully due to his ongoing knee issues I wouldn't be surprised if another gk was called upon sooner rather than later. Bachmann could well be ready to step up already though.
     
  18. Ybotcoombes

    Ybotcoombes First Year Pro

    I love Gomes , think him staying is good for team spirit
     
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  19. Moose

    Moose First Team

    Certainly looked it in the cup final.

    He didn’t do too badly in the few games before, but I don’t see any need for us to manage his decline. Should have let him go.
     
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  20. Ágætis Byrjun

    Ágætis Byrjun First Year Pro

    Always a good character to keep, certainly good enough as a backup. Will be instrumental in keeping Joao Pedro happy and training Pontus Dahlberg. Hope we can keep him on a staff member for many years.
     
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  21. Moose

    Moose First Team

    Football, don’t you love it? Fans pleased we are paying someone somewhere between 500k and a million pounds to hang around and be affable.

    If we are worried about Joao Pedro settling in just get him a puppy.
     
  22. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Excellent news. Means we played an old man in out biggest game ever for not even sentimental reasons.
     
  23. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Yeah or like pay 2 or 3 nice, religious Brazilians to hang around, make him feel welcome, get his hands on the tons of meat and beans they like to eat and keep him out of trouble.

    Such a goodwill squad shouldn't run to more than 100k per year.
     
  24. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    I am looking forward to sentimental celebration Mark II when he plays the run in next year because squad morale will be decimated if he doesn’t. Apparently.
     
  25. Horace_goes_up_north

    Horace_goes_up_north First Year Pro

  26. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Bit like the Andy Murray video when it was said he would retire...but returned.
     
  27. Chumlax

    Chumlax Reservist

    Much as we love him my thoughts are broadly in line with lowerrous a la his initial post.

    The thing is, it's a gamble, because as lowerrous has also said, the Foster situation is up in the air. He's a top goalie, but he's also at an age where he's walking a tightrope suspended from one end of Schrodinger's steel chamber to the other. He will continue to be evergreen and brilliant until the second he stops being it, and that could be any second from now. It could, in fact, have been a previous second, near the end of last season, when he seemed to forget who he was with about four matches left to go. We won't be able to tell definitively when that second was, or is, or if it has occurred or indeed will occur, until we open the chamber and observe him playing in the upcoming season, and it either has or does/does not.

    If it does turn out to be the case, then that means we might end up being forced to rely on Bachmann to come in and be the number one (yes, it's also possible that Foster might be preserved as No.1 regardless of how badly his form might dip, we can't tell). If that situation does come to pass, it's a risk. An interesting one, and Bachmann did extremely well at Kilmarnock, earning his spot and a succession of rave reviews to boot (I for one am very intrigued to see how he might do, so I certainly hope it's the case that Gomes is basically here for his leadership and influence behind the scenes, and it's Bachmann who gets the cup games) but whatever way it goes, only time will tell, and it's also possible that Daniel may not yet be cut out for the top level.
     
  28. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse Strangeland

    A horrendous token gesture and colossal waste of money.

    Sure he’s a lovely bloke but sorry, this is a poor move.
     
  29. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    I am not sure why this is considered a bad move by Gino. unless people think Foster is not good enough to start as number 1. I don't see how the other two young keepers can be argued to be better options. No other keeper established in the Premier League is going to come as number 2 to Foster. So the arguments against Gomes, suggest that Foster should now be our number two keeper.

    Gomes, from what you see, is a big positive personality at the club, and that has a value. I also think his performances in the matches he played were pretty good. compared to a new signing his wages are probably marginal too.

    My suspicion is he is being kept close, because Gino thinks he may develop into an employee/associate when he does give up playing.
     
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  30. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    We now have more goalies than right backs.
     
  31. Keighley

    Keighley Squad Player

    Play two in goal, and don’t bother with a RB at all.
     
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  32. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Out of the box or, more accurately, in the box thinking.
     
  33. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Oh great. So if, as rumoured Joao Pedro doesn't come until next summer, we'll have to give Gomes another year just so he can buy him some winter clothes and take him out to Brazilian restaurants.
     
  34. Oscar calling

    Oscar calling Squad Player

    If Pedro actually arrives?
     
  35. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    Fingers crossed that Ben doesn’t get injured next season.
     

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