Fans Returning To Stadiums

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by King Dev, Sep 16, 2020.

  1. Keighley

    Keighley Squad Player

    It’s interesting to speculate on why these freakish results are happening. I can’t help but think that the absence of crowds must be a very significant factor, but quite why this impacts is difficult to say. I quite like the suggestion above that matches just don’t seem so “serious”.

    Whatever it is, I find that I have zero interest in watching football without a crowd on TV. I just can’t engage with it at all.
     
  2. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    I think that’s almost certain to be true. An error that leads to a goal is always perceived as far far worse than simply not scoring a goal.

    If a keeper makes a mistake it almost certainly leads to a goal, similarly so for defenders less so the further up the pitch you go. Forwards regularly make ‘mistakes’ but don’t get anywhere near the grief a defender would for causing a goal.

    It’s comparable to ‘regret avoidance’ if a person had the opportunity to move an investment but didn’t and missed out on making an extra £1000, in comparisons to somebody who did move an investment but ended up being £1000 worse off because of it, about 90% of humans would feel worse about the second scenario. Actions or decisions we actually make that actively cost us something (a defender or keeper losing a team a goal) will always be seen as worse than decisions that don’t lose you anything but make you miss out on being better off.

    A very long winded way of saying I agree with that theory.
     
  3. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Academy Graduate

    Possibly because both teams are setting up like the home side ?
     
  4. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    I agree with your difficulty in engaging with football at the moment. Our relegation and now possible promotion push feel like they’re happening in some alternative or virtual world. On top of that, the changes to the traditional football calendar make a lot of games a ‘surprise’ as to when they’re happening.

    This might all be because I’m someone who’s used to going to live games most weeks. It would be interesting to hear if anyone who normally watches all their football on screen feels the same.
     
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  5. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    No, as somebody who is lucky to get home for a game every couple of years, this all rings true for me.

    It’s hard to put my finger on why, but the games just seem completely hollow. Without the fans there, it’s going on in a vacuum and doesn’t really seem to matter the same.

    For what it’s worth, college sports here started up recently with limited crowds, and the viewing experience is a lot better for it.
     
  6. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    I’ve been trying to decide what I would do if I had the chance to go to Vicarage Road with a limited number of fans. If it were to be at the level of the recent trial at Norwich (1-2,000 I think), I would probably find it depressing. But in my early years of going, crowds were around the 5,000 mark (i.e. 25% of capacity now), so I suppose I should be satisfied with that.
     
  7. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    When fans are allowed back in a limited capacity, I wonder if it will affect iFollow/Hive Live?
     
  8. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    I'll happily watch our games BCD, but I am less interested in other games now, that fake crowd noise annoys me, it sounds like a normal game (well, kind of), but it's just manufactured, it's not real

    I'm a big darts fan, since their restart, events in the UK have been behind closed doors, events in Austria and Germany have had crowds of about 1,500 I think, and I'm not pushed either way, probably because I can appreciate the game itself more without getting pissed off, and the fact that darts crowds are usually full of morons (though I don't mind them being morons if they give Gerwyn Price a hard time!)
     
  9. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Academy Graduate

    Good question.
    Possibly yes as those who are desperate to watch the match live would be those who sign up to hive live.
     
  10. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I'm sure I read there's a percentage they have in mind where once capacity is allowed to go past it they will switch off domestic iFollow again. They won't want someone having a choice between going to the match for £20+ or watching from home for £10 and opting for the latter.
     
  11. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Would that be when the stadium is fairly full then? Say if they let in a couple of thousand fans, that's still less than the number of people who will be watching on iFollow (most of the time I guess, I heard we had 12k subscriptions for the derby?). Don't envisage even half attendance for a while yet
     
  12. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist

    Make it £10 to attend and £20 for iFollow...

    Although so far on average that'd be £40 for every Watford goal you get to see o_O:eek:
     
  13. ITK platypus

    ITK platypus Reservist

    I walked down to Vicarage Road the other day to see if it was still there. It was.

    I then technically entered the stadium by going into the Hornets Shop. It was almost as good as a match day.
     
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  14. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Reservist

    You may of seen @NathWFC @GoingDown @Jumbolina @lowerrous and @wfcmoog erecting a large Pozzo OUT banner across the width of the EJ stand. Just off Occupation Road there is a bed with wet sheets and a happy clown clapping. Watford FC fans, best ever.
     
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  15. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    @lowerrous is not one of the Bed Wetters
     
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  16. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    It's a very exclusive club. Elite level bed wetters only.
     
  17. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    I'm not sure if you've noticed but I'm fully behind the lads now. I've been very critical of things over recent months but now, after our amazing transfer business - in and out, anyone without a brain can see the bigger picture and our impending promotion, as champions. All we need to do is get behind Gino and the team and they will lead us to victory! COYH!
     
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  18. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I like your way of thinking. Gino has done more than enough to earn our trust. Without him we wouldn't even have a club to support! We've seen some of the best football in my 42 years and some of the best ever players to pull on a shirt.

    We've a new stand and a steak house and we have been to a cup final.

    I've given my head a wobble and I'm on board.

    This window has been nice.
     
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  19. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    One of these will be funny soon, I'm sure.
     
  20. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I laughed @GoingDown.

    I can get in board with the clapping but I'm not sure I want to join in their relentless bullying.
     
  21. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist

    Less chance of defeat and disappointment in that scenario.
     
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  22. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    You can't win sadly. If you're negative they criticise, if you're positive they criticise. I'll keep my focus on the lads and getting behind Gino and the team and they can do whatever they want. I'll be laughing at the end of the season when we win the league.
     
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  23. ForzaWatford

    ForzaWatford Squad Player

    It is sad to see GD and Moog, two genuinely funny posters resorting to constantly posting the same boring jokes. We get it, you're not happy, but it's getting boring now. I like both you and find most the stuff you post genuinely amusing, but this is boring now...

    Can we have some kind of truce, where we acknowledge the Pozzo's mistakes and move on to make this forum fun to read again?
     
  24. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    wages
     
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  25. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    I don't think GD was ever funny.

    Used to be a tad less predictable though.
     
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  26. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Lowerrous is not for sale.
     
  27. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Free transfer?
     
  28. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Maybe a pay as you post type deal.
     
  29. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Vydra in the background
     
  30. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    We'll pay you
     
  31. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss Squad Player

    Ill drive him there myself
     
  32. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Read this on the BBC site for the Bristol City v Middlesbrough match,:

    Must have felt really strange for anyone who went!

    "The optimism created by City's start to the campaign made a night of pizza and beer at the club's Ashton Gate bar a hot ticket for fans, creating the slightly farcical scenario of supporters watching on TV at the stadium but not allowed to attend in the traditional fashion"
     
  33. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Farcical they haven’t managed to get any fans back in stadiums yet.
     
  34. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    I think you'll find Watford will go down this route soon and have fans in the corporate areas for both home and away games to be streamed.
     
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  35. Ybotcoombes

    Ybotcoombes Reservist

    we either need to have a truce or a gladiatorial battle

    we start a post , both sides nominate a single poster , they then go at it hammer and tong against each other no holes barred, winner is last person standing , the whole forum then adopts that outlook
     

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