Everton Watch

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by Clive_ofthe_Kremlin, Aug 6, 2018.

  1. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I wish that would be true, but the sad fact is we've never won at Everton in our history and never will.
     
  2. toffeeblue9

    toffeeblue9 First Year Pro

    It will happen one day. Will it happen next week? I've no idea. First properly good performance of the season from us on Sunday, but I've been watching this lot far too long to think that means we have turned a corner.

    I've also not seen a lot of Watford recently, so don't know how realistically your current position reflects your current form - although I know you were unfortunate on Saturday not to win.
     
  3. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Honestly, West Ham were really poor and have been for a few weeks, but that's not to denigrate you as I think you played them at the right time, were the better team and deserved to win.

    Same with us and Spurs, we played them at the right time but fate conspired against us (and VAR).
     
  4. toffeeblue9

    toffeeblue9 First Year Pro

    They'd won 2, drawn 2 and lost 1 of their previous five league games I think

    To be fair though, yes, they were really poor - we could have scored six and it wouldn't have flattered us. We are good against teams who want to play football - that's why we put a good showing in against Man City. West Ham will always let you play. Always.

    Sit deep and stay compact and we haven't got a clue
     
  5. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Nobody sits deeper amd compacter than Florrie so perhaps we have a chance!
     
  6. Sierra Kilo

    Sierra Kilo Academy Graduate

    Its gotta be a taxi for the Snake now.......
     
  7. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    I think the Wet Spam win has given him time. Had they lost that, he would be gone. If we beat him in the Cup - that could do it also.
     
  8. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    VAR robbed them apprantley- and scoring an own goal in the 94th minute .
     
  9. toffeeblue9

    toffeeblue9 First Year Pro

    VAR decision was dodgy based on what we've been told VAR would intervene on

    But, it was a foul

    Anyway, beat us on Tuesday night and I think you'll get him the sack. I would imagine that would be something you'll all smile about.
     
  10. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Well, our only hope is a 0-0 followed by a win on pens as we sure as hell aren't scoring any goals anytime soon.
     
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  11. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Well we'd have to score first ..
     
  12. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    At least this barsteward and his team are still losing, there is a god :D
     
  13. We are only 5 points behind them. Crazy as our bad season currently is, just 5 points.
     
  14. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Feeds nicely into my ‘you have to be really really really really bad to get relegated from this league’ narrative.
     
  15. Amazingly, as ****** as our season has been so far, we've got more points over the last 6 games than them
     
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  16. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Unfortunately we are really really bad :(
     
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  17. toffeeblue9

    toffeeblue9 First Year Pro

    You've probably bought him another couple of games there. You really do hate us, don't you?
     
  18. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    I noticed the other day that Everton have by far the lamest matchday song/club anthem going - two of the four lines to its chorus are:
    "We dont care what the red side say
    What the heck do we care"

    ...because of course the clearest way to demonstrate that you don't care about the other team is to dedicate an entire half of the chorus of your own club song (and one quarter of the whole thing) to referring to them.
     
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  19. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    The match against Spurs was not very good. Losing one of their better players, (who i hope recovers to be able play again one day), wont help either.

    I hope they win their next two games, and then lose the next four. That would help us and probably mean Silva is out by the new year. Then we can all get back to normal.
     
  20. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Is it just me or has the Gomes injury been completely overblown? There's probably one or two nasty leg breaks a year in each league. It happens. It wasn't even that gory. Snowflake players crying and praying or whatever seem to have affected how people viewed it. You'd have thought his foot came off the way Son was retching.

    Everton have already said he'll make a full recovery. Surgery done.
     
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  21. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I think he could have played on.
    I'd have booked him for diving.
     
  22. toffeeblue9

    toffeeblue9 First Year Pro

    Appreciate you have other things on your mind this evening chaps, but you may wish to watch this space...
     
  23. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Official statement from the club just posted.

    [​IMG]
     
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  24. toffeeblue9

    toffeeblue9 First Year Pro

    Hard to argue with that
     
  25. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    [​IMG]BBC Sport‏Verified account @BBCSport 1m1 minute ago
    Former Everton boss David Moyes is apparently being considered as an interim replacement for current manager Marco Silva.

    Silva's future hangs in the balance following his side's 2-0 home defeat by Norwich
    .
     
  26. toffeeblue9

    toffeeblue9 First Year Pro

    See, Watford aren't the only club who think everything can be sorted out by going back in time and appointing a defensive manager who's already had one crack at the job
     
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  27. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    FTFY
     
  28. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    He left for Man U rather than being sacked for being **** though.
     
  29. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    I remember they didn't really like Moyes in the end as he was too dour and defensive ..
     
  30. toffeeblue9

    toffeeblue9 First Year Pro

    I didn't fall into this category. There were plenty who did though. Mate I sit next to Goodison has pledged to not go to a single game that Moyes is in charge of if he returns.

    FWIW - this, to me, is a dereliction of duty from Everton. This Silva situation has been coming for weeks (even if there are some genuine mitigating circumstances), if the best plan B we could come up with during that time is David Moyes, someone isn't doing their job properly
     
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  31. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    I think it was just the the lack of progress which did for him in terms of support ?

    You became quite stale and it picked up a bit under Martinez before he went to pot too !

    Trouble for Silva is that I am not sure if he had ever had a good spell !!

    Plus it doesn't help the money spent has produced very little .
     
  32. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    If I was Everton I would appoint the current Leeds manager, who is going well at the moment. They could easily tap him up. With a style and approach that suit them down to the ground.
     
  33. toffeeblue9

    toffeeblue9 First Year Pro

    Re Moyes - Yes. It wasn't his fault as we had no money and we constantly had to sell our best players in an attempt to reinvest, but the fact he was here over a decade and had one 4th place finish and an FA Cup final appearance to show for it wasn't enough for most people. I get that, but personally think that was ignorant of the financial situation at the time. He performed miracles for most of his tenure IMO.

    Moyes finished 6th in his final season. We'd had a couple of average seasons before that when the financial situation was at its worst.

    Let's be honest though, he's been largely terrible wherever he has gone since he left us. There's nothing on his CV since he left us which suggests we should be considering him.

    I'd genuinely rather keep Silva until we identify a proper longer term replacement
     
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  34. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    What I will never fully understand even now, is why Silva did to us what he did. Yes, Everton are to blame too, but I base 75% of the blame on him. Before all that started we were playing good football,
    doing well in the league and assembled a new attacking formula which was working. Then, all of a sudden, word gets to him Everton are interested in him, and it soon leaks down to the players
    that he wants out. Our form drops off a cliff, we plummet near the relegation zone and Gracia thankfully comes in to save us.

    But, since Silva has arrived at Everton, from what I can tell at least he has been pretty average. Yes, they had a great end to last season and beat Manure and Chelsea which was impressive, but this
    season especially things have gone rotten. I thought when we played Everton second game of the season we were unlucky not to get a point, and for most of the game Everton looked a pale shade
    of the side they were tail end of last season. Is this purely down to Silva's football tactics, or is it something like what he did with us? Is his head turned elsewhere?

    Not that I really care, because what he did to us as a club was disgusting and good ridden to bad rubbish and all that. Just genuine curious.
     
  35. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    There's a bloke at Watford you might be able to get
     

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