Deadline Day August 2018

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by Burnsy, Aug 7, 2018.

  1. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    In what sense? Two have injuries (Chalobah and Cleverley) carried over from last season. Doucoure had a random but quite serious illness. Attempts to sign players on loan failed, probably because they knew they'd be benched by October and gone by January. And as we still have to pay the injured players it's a big risk to sign a multi-million pound replacement just to temp for a few months.
     
  2. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

  3. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    I completely get your point, and yes, you have to be logical about it. But as you say, both the injuries to Cleverley and Chalobah have been known about since last season. Why didn't we spend any actual time at all securing, say, a 6 month loan of someone willing and capable to cover whilst our first choicers are out? As it is, we're one unfortunate move from any player away from not being able to field a central midfield of central midfielders, because we have no cover, which is not something that has come as a surprise.
     
  4. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Which doesn’t make him injury prone which is what you said
     
  5. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Ok, well I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree on our respective interpretations of that. For me, a player who has played notably fewer than half of the matches in a season in 2 of the last 3 seasons owing to injury can be considered relatively prone to injury.

    On top of that, Deulofeu is injured again, right now.
     
  6. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Didn’t Southampton spend £60m? Fans still moaning.
     
  7. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Well let’s see on Saturday.
     
  8. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    I’m not saying they didn’t. However:

    1. Clearly we must have been desperate and panicked to stoop as low as Livermore.

    2. If we did make bids for a number of players and every one of them turned us down, that’s points to a huge amount of time wasted due to a strategy which has clearly failed.

    In answer to what the club could have done differently: offer a serious and competitive offer/ contract for one or two quality players in positions we are severely lacking, rather than our scattergun, thrift-shop panicked approach.
     
  9. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Ah, so not the medical team? Make your mind up.
     
  10. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Strong Premier League sides without kicking a ball. Still have Championship players and still have to mould in to a team and keep everybody happy. Something I don’t believe Silva will do at Everton or Pellegrini at West Ham unless they get rid of a lot of players. I reckon there maybe some free transfers popping up by the end of August
     
  11. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Wolves yes. Fulham no. Most their signings are low-level Prem standard at best - their main plus point will be Joka, if they survive it will be more down to him than their players.

    Everton and West Ham have indeed had very good windows, but it's clear that we're just not even competing with them.

    Southampton, Huddersfield, Cardiff, Burnley and Bournemouth have all also had pretty poor windows.
     
  12. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Huh? What part of my post doesn’t make it clear that I don’t think there are issues on both sides of the coin?
     
  13. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Like a new signing I thought.
     
  14. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    So Everton are making friends....

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  15. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Yes you’re right. Shocking state that this club finds itself in. I bet the likes of Ipswich Sunderland and Blackburn are glad they managed themselves properly without putting themselves into a financial mess.
     
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  16. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Well no, you’ve added another dimension and failed to evaluate how much malingering there is.

    Is it enough to excuse the medical team or are both issues highly exaggerated?
     
  17. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Yes, I wish we were like Villa. Desperate to sign Isaac Success.
     
  18. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Who's in charge of sorting out the medical team?
     
  19. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    did Watford say we tried to get Livermore or angent desperate to see his client back in the Premier League?
     
  20. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    This is the thing. It’s not me being dramatic. Your response is far more dramatic than what I have said.

    There’s a difference between continued and prolonged mismanagement (Sunderland etc) and a period of 8-10 months of poor decisions (Watford). Maybe mismanagement was the wrong choice of words. But I think whilst there are some good things going on in areas of the club, at the moment they are outweighed by the poor decisions.

    Sort the medical department out once and for all and get to the root of the problems. And get a proper DoF in who puts in place a strategy in the transfer market. If we do that, we can compete further up the table. Until then, it’s a vicious circle IMO.

    Look at Gracia’s words today - the guy clearly has absolutely no idea of what is going on at the club.
     
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  21. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    I don’t care really, because I don’t accept they are a problem.
     
  22. neverforgetboxingday

    neverforgetboxingday Academy Graduate

    The whole transfer saga is an embarrassment
     
  23. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Not a ball yet kicked in anger.
     
  24. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    It's ok. Gino knows what he's doing.
     
  25. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    GD, you're just angry because we missed out on Wilshere aren't you ?
     
  26. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Okaka is going to score 15+ goals for us this season.

    You heard it here first.
     
  27. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Leventhal was reporting that we were in negotiations with him, so I think it's fair to say that he were indeed in for him, unlike a few of the rogue rumours flying about yesterday that Leventhal himself rubbished.
     
  28. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Why do people make these bizarre posts as if people are asking for 30m signings and 150k per week wages. All people are asking is for Giraldi to do his job and rectify our bargain basement centreback options with a solid signing. Do you honestly think a 10/15m experienced centre back will cause financial Armageddon?
     
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  29. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    I very, very much doubt that Penaranda will be actually sorting the work permit issues out himself (despite Gracia's dodgy phrasing). No doubt some people at the club are going through it with him... we went to court to try and get a work permit for him, we're not going to then let him sit around with some important documents lying unopened on his kitchen table ffs.
     
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  30. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I think people would have had far better understanding of this transfer window had Duxbury not said that he believes the club can be 'best of the rest'. It was said for the benefit of the fans and to potential transfer targets and it has worked on neither. Scott and the owners speak so rarely that they should realise that when they do talk, what they say is listened to by the fans.

    They made a rod for their own back with that comment and haven't reasonably backed it up apart from Doucoure's new deal. Some of the signings are good but none of them would equate to 'best of the rest' part from Deulofeu - if he can stay fit.
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2018
  31. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Agreed but that's the point, the guy seemingly has no idea what's going on about anything.
     
  32. If Gracia sorts our approach game out, I fully expect the pant wetters to be declaring we're still poop, and are only doing well because our forwards are like different players, and no one could have predicted that.

    For the record, I'm predicting it now, and if all the emotional fails drag this up and rub my nose in it three months down the line, fair dos.

    Deeney and Okaka, maybe even Gray, with proper service and support built into our strategy, will be like new signings.
     
  33. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Didn't he also predict a quiet transfer window?
     
  34. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    What and listen to what the club actually says rather than gossip?
     
  35. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    It’s my deadlineday and I’ll cry if I want to
     
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