Placeholder - Gonna be a little bit late this morning sorry everyone! Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
Coolio. Cheers for the warning. Still buzzing from that Wolf kill. Seriously made my weekend happier. Was gutted last game where we didn't get one Evil at all.
There's no write up I'm afraid. However, what I can inform you is that the wolf decided to go for Dom. This is somewhat unfortunate... Spoiler For the wolf! Spoiler because the Guardian was protecting Dom! BigRossLittleRoss Otter Steve Leo Beleck With A Smile Squibba Meh Hornetgags Domthehornet PowerJugs NW Orn Ten players remain. Day closes at 8.30pm
Dom lives! Good job Guardian. Suppose it's usual business today; wait for messages and watch for patterns. Best indicator probably is to see those who defended Steve Harrow the most as the Wolf would know the other Wolf. No-one. You live another day.
No, they can't kill the Wolf; only the Martyr can do that outside of Lynching. They protect a Villager once per game.
I'm surprised I wasn't in the wolf's firing line. Referring back to my chart. Of those not confirmed good only two players hadn't voted for or been voted by the late steve harrow; they were NW Orn who I think is the other wolf and With A Smile who I think is the traitor; my thoughts on WaS were further compounded by the fact that he really was the only one pressing me for my reasons for accusing NW Orn. I'm a little peed off with myself as I'd picked up on steve harrow's posting patterns compared to the wolf's message on Days 1 & 2, and I'd also accused NW Orn from Wednesday but never followed through with it. If we lynch NW Orn tonight I believe team good win.
To recap: All Messages are in order of posting. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Day 1 Messages: "'Good morning everybody, it is your seer speaking. I viewed Ashdonwfc this morning, he is GOOD' "Hello everyone! I wanted to see whether anyone stood out more than another before viewing today. It is such pot luck. Went for Diamond and they are good. I am going to try and mix up the style of writing to avoid the wolf copying me in the next few days." We now know both are Good and Dead so these messages are irrelevant. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Day 2 Messages: "Ok everybody, I know the first day is difficult. People need to remember that shouting accusations about doesn't help anybody at this stage. Today I decided to view DAFT ROW he is EVIL. I also viewed Ashdon yesterday, he is Good." "Morning villagers. A mixed night last night. But fortune today as I viewed Steve Leo Beleck and he is evil! Ashdon was viewed as good by me yesterday. Shame that the wolf jumped at that knowledge. I do not know if Diamond is good or bad as I did not view them." Daft Row was found to be Good, which SLB then claimed to be the Harlot. Because no-one has challenged him on this it is still NOT guaranteed but he is very likely to be the Harlot and therefore Daft Row was the Tinker. Again. Poor *******. We can't rule out SLB playing the largest bluff in Werewolf history but it's very unlikely now unless the real Harlot has been quiet waiting for the right time. I'm personally inclined to believe he is the Harlot. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Day 3 Messages: "Ouch, yesterday's result was very difficult to take. Please forgive me for guiding you towards daft row, he was the tinker. Today I viewed SQUIBBA, he is GOOD. I did not view SLB, as I believe that he is probably the harlot." "Right everybody, last night was a shame but it was me who viewed SLB as EVIL so that helps a lot. I viewed OptimisticHornet today, he is GOOD." We know OptimisticHornet was the Seer and he would not view himself. Therefore the Squibba Message is from the Seer if we agree. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Day 4 Messages: "Ok last night has been expensive fellow villagers. Please think very carefully about your votes and messages. Today I viewed Dom, he is GOOD. I still believe we can win this." "Morning all, disappointing lynching last night. Thought about viewing main players behind that but then thought WAS and Grrwood voting for each other was unusual with wolves knowing each other and bingo. Grrwood is EVIL." Grrwood was found to be Good, so that means the 1st Message is TRUE. Dom is Good. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Day 5 Messages: "Sorry for delay. I am back up seer and had to quickly read through messages. We were tricked last night but we will not let it happen again. You all know Dom is Good. I viewed BRLR today and he is Good. Does not help much but narrows who might be evil." "Hey! The first message is a lie, I am the backup seer. I decided to view NW Orn as Otter who is an experienced player has been adamant that NW is Evil and we seem to be getting nowhere by following the mass opinion so I thought maybe if we listen to a quiet yet persistent minority they may be right and bingo! NW Orn is Evil!" BRLR is very likely to be Good via last Day's shenanigans _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ What we know then: Confirmed Good (Omitting Dead): Squibba Domthehornet Likely Good: SLB <Anyone he has stayed with and he announces> BRLR Undecided: Powerjugs Otter WaS Meh! Hornetsgags NW Orn
I think the Beta wolf is a bit inexperienced by going for me last night knowing I hadn't been protected by the guardian previously.
Lets make tonight's lynching an informed decision based upon the above and there's a good chance this gets wrapped up today. Well done Guardian.
It's been a long weekend. was it decided which message was from the seer and the wolf ? At the moment are we sure about BRLR and NW being good ? Fingers crossed the seer's message will be clear and will help
Otter. While I commend you on the time and effort put into your spreadsheet it demonstrates nothing in respect to me. My voting has been Day 1 - inactive until late Ybot - most people voted for him Day 2 - called away at short notice and by the time I was back the vote for DR had been decided - I just followed the crowd as it made no difference. Day 3 - Naively got sucked into a witch hunt set up by Meh - early vote as you can see. (many people voted for him) Day 4 - Voted Grrwood (early vote as you can see) - WAS started that particular witchhunt Day 5 - Stuck with my stated candidate of WAS . I accept I didn't vote for Steve Harrow - its because he wasn't even on my radar. However consider that he did vote for me on Day 5 and if he was the alpha he put my name forward in the 2nd message on Friday. Not likely to put his evil team mate in the limelight is he !!! The witch hunts on day 3 & 4 are the most suspicious to me. WAS is the traitor or most likely the last wolf. Meh is the traitor with his continued mis-direction.
Just a quick query - why do you think that the first message on Day 5 is the Seer? I thought we hadn't worked that out for definite?
It's why I've put him in the same category as you. If we generally agree he isn't I'll put him in unconfirmed.
I think he should be unconfirmed on the basis of the message content. I haven't seen a persuasive argument for that first message being the Seer.
Looking at it, I'd be inclined to agree. Only catch is that NW's name was thrown in after Steve Harrow was starting to be put under pressure initially which makes me believe 2nd was the Wolf's message to deflect attention off of Harrow. No, it isn't proven like some earlier messages are but it's a decent indication for me hence why I put him there with you rather than unconfirmed.
Sorry guys you are both barking up the wrong tree Wait for the seer to post their message, to confirm who they know as good, confirm which was their message on Friday and confirm who they have viewed today. You don't need to feed the wolf any bait at this stage
#Bingogate is a fairly compelling argument that the 2nd message was wolf and he picked on me as a random to call as evil to deflect attention away from himself. If that's accepted then BRLR is good and whilst it doesn't confirm me as good it would be a bold play by the wolf .
Well done Guardian. Some outstanding work there. No idea why I wasn't chosen seeing as the gaurdian protected me the night before. Would seem obvious, unless I named them and they were scared of drawing attention to themselves? Dom is good. I think you should assume me good seeing as I tipped the scales in favour of Steve harrow.
Whether it helps or not i'm not sure. This is the voting from Friday. We know that they wolves knew each other, so unlikely to vote for each other early doors. Should we be looking at those that didn't vote for Steve Harrow or those that voted later on ? I have no idea if these are in order of the time people voted, I'll have to go back and look the 5 of us in bold are all on PJ's unviewed, jury's out list
I think PotGuy did the same a few years back when he and someone else were Wolves and one was rumbled. This doesn't mean you're Good or Evil but you're just the rest of us; unconfirmed. WaS I'm unviewed too.
Haha. No way. I could easily have put someone else in by voting elsewhere other than your 1 vote. Hornetgags, or joined otter in the NW Orn witchhunt. Speaking of which, still need to consider gags after his little "slip"?!!!
Looking back at the timing of Steve Harrow's vote for NW Orn, and it was quite a critical time - it levelled the vote at 3-3. I'm not sure he would have done that to the other wolf, particularly as he was going to Borneo over the weekend and wasn't sure he'd be able to play on. That coupled with #bingogate leads me to think that NW Orn is not the second wolf. Slim chance he's the traitor but not too sure at all. Leaning strongly towards the first message on Day 5 being the Seer, and the second being the Wolf.
Morning Guys, 2 positive actions this weekend puts us back in the driving seat. The logic for SLBs conclusion in post 29 today seems solid. Of course I know that Im good, but you guys should rightly hold that to question as we all should be, and so SLBs logic backs up what I know to be fact. Am busy today but will to try to dip in as much as I can. EDIT just seen new message. I have to say PJ has been secretly on my list for a while but more to do with unusual abscence of posting. I said I didnt agree with using that as an argument but then we caught Steve Harrow with it.
If that first message is the Wolf, then it gives the Seer an opportunity to confirm the status of BRLR and clear NW Orn. If we get a second message stating that they also viewed BRLR on Friday, then we can take it as a fact that BRLR is Good AND that the Wolf was trying to stitch up NW Orn. In fact, coming to think of it, I challenge the person who writes the second message today to confirm the above - if they do, then we have two more confirmed Good players. If they don't, then how can we believe anything they write when they could exonerate two players? Over to you Wolf or Seer...
It wouldn't make sense for me to be Evil. I've been backing those who are Good as well as trying to keep confusion down to a minimum (Clarifying rules, Proving theories wrong to keep us on a sound logic) so that we made the right choices, which I believe did help us nab Steve Harrow. I voted for him before it was a foregone conclusion as well. (But was out at a party on Friday evening when I voted so couldn't justify why at the time)
On Friday PJ voted for steve harrow when the score was 2-1 to him. As the wolves have known each other's identities from Day 3 then I very much doubt that PJ would have voted for steve harrow, let alone then. I think this only increases the chances that the second message on Friday was the backup seer and hence NW Orn evil.
Agree with the first sentence i think SLB makes a good point about NW in post #29, although nothing is clear either way yet
