Current Premier League teams top division status since last relegation

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by Jossy, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. Jossy

    Jossy Reservist

    There's always lots of talk about "who's an established Premier League team" etc, so I thought I'd have a quick look at the stats and compile a table based on the twenty clubs in the top division this season (because they're all the most current) and how long they've been there (with their last relegation from the top flight added just out of interest).

    The numbers include this season (i.e - we have three seasons, although we're yet to actually finish the third one). Of course for three of these teams, their consecutive spell in the top flight is about to come to an end.

    Top division league table consecutive years.jpg

    A few things that stand out:

    The top seven almost mirrors the so called "big 6". Only Everton are the odd ones out here.

    Of this top seven, the 6th and 7th placed teams - Chelsea and Man City - are a good distance behind in years compared to those above them. Is it significant that to have become an established, more recent "ever present" - they both acquired owners with huge financial wealth?

    Tottenham's claim to be one of the "big clubs" is actually shown up here. In 40 consecutive seasons in the top division, they haven't won one league title.

    Compare that to Leicester - currently one league title in just four seasons.

    Liverpool also poor during this time - 56 consecutive years of all the top flight and prem money, plus Champions League cash - yet no league title for 28 years.

    Blackburn Rovers - not on this list as they've now fallen away - also spent a lot less time in the top flight but managed to win the title - further proof of how poor Spurs and Liverpool have been during their lengthy spells in the prem/old first division.

    Our delightful friends from Goodison have only managed 4 league titles in an unbroken, top flight spell of 64 years - the most recent coming in 86/87 - 31 years ago. Another example of a very poor run, when you consider how "massive" they claim to be.

    Outside of the top seven, there's a huge drop off in the number of years teams have spent in the top division. Only Stoke are in double figures - and that could very well be coming to an end this year.

    So does this sum up the Premier League now? Seven clubs always safe (Everton being the outlier - surely their time is coming to an end?) and the rest looking at a spell of anywhere between 1 and 10 years before they disappear back to the divisions below?

    If these stats are significant, is it a case of when and not if we drop back down? Or can Gino buck the trend and establish us longer than ten years in the top flight?

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Good work. Don’t forget, though, that the ‘big 6’ is not fixed, despite what the media will tell you - and it’s not always 6. Back in the 80s Everton were very definitely one of the ‘big 5’, as were Spurs who were not in it a few years ago. Leeds have been ‘big’ at least twice and Chelsea and Man City are relative newcomers, although City were big years ago.
     
  3. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Jossy, excellent work .

    Some random observations.

    Mid table security is a fiction, at least in the medium term. All of those 13 will get relegated in the next decade or so.

    It’s how you manage that as a club that matters.

    As I recall, each time Newcastle have gone down recently, they have made it certain they’re coming right back. Keeping Rafa, before that keeping Carroll & their various Argentinians.

    Compare that with Bolton. If you see yourself as a yo yo club, you will, at some point, yo.

    @rse & Sliverton look prime examples of not losing being more important than winning. Money, power & influence shifts around continually. MC won the third level fairly recently. But you can sense the complacency in the marble at those two. Staying up so the directors can swan around seems more important to them than edge. Lazy, no risk organisations which could explain their ease with their current excruciating underperformance.

    It will take a phenomen of GT proportions to keep Udders & BHA up for long, esp Udders. Without Wagner, you wonder what they have.

    And glory be to Gino!

    And, I have to add, Lesta, Muff, Palarse & Burnley. In my sons’ lives, these have been our peer group. Only Hull of that lot have dropped, dramatically, off the pace.

    Better run, more eager than the WBA/Stoke/Spam cadre?

    Probably.

    Certainly, the latter two have tried to reposition themselves radically as, respectively, Barca B & Arsenal Lite.

    And Bromwich without Pulis is like Little without Large.

    So, let’s not be London Hornets, let’s be proud of our ‘churn’ model but let’s also stick with a good man when find one.

    GT, Guidolin & di Natalie suggest a central figure can galvanise a club like ours & give it resilience & continuity.

    Otherwise, you revert to the mean which from Jossy’s data is 4 seasons then trapdoor time.

    COY, & I’m searching for the right word here, H.
     
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