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Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by wfc4ever, Jul 25, 2011.

  1. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Yes the fact that I didn't even get that right says it all !
    I think the ashes outcome is too close to call. The fact it is being played later in the summer when the pitches will be drier and many of their batsmen will have properly acclimatised takes away much of the usual english home wicket advantage. Hopefully we'll have a really wet seaming summer !
    Anything could happen in the WC as the games are so volatile - one successful slog or catch and anyone can beat anyone - well almost.
     
  2. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    I think actually, under the flinty eyed Irishman, England have changed the way ODIs are played.

    Their ability to score 300++ on a regular basis is akin to when Barca started playing carousel footie. This significantly increases our chances.

    The key to the Ashes is our batting. My fear is that we will be a permanent 10-2 with Joe Root batting as a de facto opener, let alone #3. Jimmy & Broady can bowl their socks off, & I think they will, but you can't defend 200 every match.

    Btw, it will be interesting to see how often Broad plays. Let's hope the muddled old Aussie in charge doesn't start meddling in this area again.
     
  3. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Yes some difficult calls around Woakes, Broad, Curran, Wood, Broad, - I'm sure Ali will be the only spinner. I also think the Aussie pace guys will blow the top order away consistently and the 2 returning criminals will want to make a mark.

    The ODI plan works on the basis that every player goes for it and there are enough of them who can bat to get us to 300+ even if a few hole out along the way. However at some point I can see us getting to a very quick 150-7 where no-one goes on to make a big score. The challenge will be winning when that happens. I still remember the day that Boycott used to open for England in limited over matches ! There was a final against WI where I think he and Brearley(?) opened and were about 120-0 but needed to score at a ridiculous rate over the remaining c15 overs to win and so lost !
     
  4. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    1979.

    When Somerset won the World Cup.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...s-west-indies-final-prudential-world-cup-1979
     
  5. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    That was it. Surprised the memory was so accurate ! 129 runs from about 40 overs for the first wicket with them both scoring at about 3 runs an over and taking their applause for their 50s. Needing another 158 runs from the remaining 20 which was out of the question in those days. The most frustrating cricket I have ever watched.
     
  6. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    To be fair, that Windies attack was one of the best ever. Our openers did well to survive & build a partnership. When Brears was out, we needed 150 off 20. Not a frightening propspect today. King was the match winner. Windies 100-4 with Viv hesitant. Our poor selection requiring part timers to bowl 12 overs in a WC Final was our undoing. King tucked massively.
     
  7. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Geoffrey was playing for a draw.

    Our posts crossed, btw.
     
  8. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Yes but even the tv commentators were getting frustrated as time ticked away and the deliveries were being patted back to the bowlers or left. Our openers effectively batted us out of the game as no-one scored at the sort of rate that was then needed in those days (other than Collis King who was superb on the day). Of course they were streets ahead of us and it was unlikely we would have won anyway.
     
  9. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    When Collis King had one season in League Cricket his batting average was something like 294

    Great effort by Sri Lanka today - last pair put on about 80 to win - number 11 was not out 6
     
  10. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Including 4 buzzers.

    Extraordinary effort from SL.
     
  11. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Watching England doing well against the Windies, Roy belting it everywhere, just polished off a sumptuous curry & the chief dilemma is whether to stay on the London Pride or switch to merlot.

    This, pace Mr Brydon, is the life.
     
  12. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Hell of a match.
     
  13. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Certainly, a runfest.

    Impressive, super impressive England set up.
     
  14. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Typical Scotland - lose to a team they bowled out for 20 odd the day before !

    England already flying it seems - hope it's the start of a great year .
     
  15. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    And the Jockos want full member status.

    Laughable.

    Just like giving Ireland test matches.

    No infrastructure & you simply can’t give status based on a couple of ‘here today, gone tomorrow’ imports.

    The depth is with Bangladesh. The stratospheric talent, now, is with Afghanistan. Watch out for these boys in June.
     
  16. Aberystwyth_Hornet

    Aberystwyth_Hornet Squad Player

    Got a ticket at the Hampshire bowl to see England vs Windies in the World Cup, hoping for same outcome ;)
     
  17. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    You could take the wife to see the West Indies.

    At Southampton.
     
  18. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Jason Roy owed us 126 runs for dropping Gayle on 9 and he very nearly did it! I didn't think the Windies pushed on enough in their innings and should have got 400. With this current England ODI side I never feel a total is not reachable and always felt as though we would win last night. Brilliant to see
     
  19. Keighley

    Keighley Squad Player

    Jamaica?
     
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  20. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Tobago last time.
     
  21. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Not quite such a good start.

    10-2 with both openers gone.

    Still can really see how long we can bat down the order I guess.
     
  22. Aberystwyth_Hornet

    Aberystwyth_Hornet Squad Player

    Threw that away and awful decision by umpire for butler dismissal. Hopefully a wake up call before the world Cup because that's how easy it is to lose a match you were bossing
     
  23. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Curran, actually.

    I am far more critical of England cricket than WFC.

    I know more about that area & it’s management is hugely far worse.

    Having said that, this England 50 over outfit is a machine.

    Most of the time fearless & brutal.

    However, good wake up call tonight. People like Stokes need to be more aware of the match situation & not just biff.
     
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  24. Aberystwyth_Hornet

    Aberystwyth_Hornet Squad Player

    Yes Curran my mistake, though unfortunately caused by Stokes wasting a review (though could have been genuine uncertainty from him)
     
  25. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    That turned the match.

    No way would Stokes not know he hadn’t hit it.

    A gunshot.

    Birds launched themselves off trees.
     
  26. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    That was very selfish and stupid of Stokes.
    Threw that match away.
     
  27. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Buttler and Morgan going bananas...58 off 15 balls

    edit then 15 off the next 2 legitimate balls.....inc nb's

    174 partnership so far off 17 overs.

    Buttler 98 off 57 balls
     
  28. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Buttler went from 50 to 100 in 15 balls!
     
  29. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    23 sixes so far which equals the world record in an innings.
    24 now beaten it.
    buttler the 2nd fastest 150 in ODIs
     
  30. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Unbelievable hitting but there has been some woeful bowling by the sound of it
     
  31. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Cricket but not as we know it.

    Exhilarating once in a while but gets a little eating only creme brulee.

    Fantastic performance though & encouraging for WC.
     
  32. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    No balance between bat and ball in ODIs any more - agree with the comment above re creme brulee.
     
  33. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Big Chris has found his ramekins & has sparked up his blowtorch.
     
  34. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    The Christians in their tricky away fixture vs the lions had more chance than Ali bowling to Gayle.
     
  35. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    West Indies gave it a good go but Rashid won the game with 4 wickets in his last over.
     

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