Fair enough i dont like cheats either.. and there are a lot of them in football these days. We arent totally exempt from that. For the record Michael Atherton never owned up to ball tampering in 1994, though he clearly did.
Ox, I was standing up & applauding by half way through. This should be read out before every Australian sporting fixture. They’re bullies, they’re cowards, they’re hugely self satisfied & they’re hypocrites. They stink. Trust the people on this. Any other serial winning team attracts plaudits & fans. Even the Australian public dislike this lot & the Ozzies don’t have much to cheer these days.
Urban Dictionary has them as synonymous which is good enough for me. Btw, Ozzy does inhabit/infest the great & adjacent county of Buckinghamshire. Honorary Horn!
I will assume you are talking about the cricket team and not Australian sportsmen in general? It should be read out before every cricket match perhaps but let’s not tar all Australian sport with the same brush. We have some brilliant rivalries with them because they are remarkably similar to us in sporting terms. We shouldn’t lose sight of that. This current batch of Australian cricketers are a generally unwholesome bunch but on the whole their history is a team that plays hard and stretches the limits of the game, without overstepping them. As their biggest rivals, we should remember that.
The good news is England look like they may venture further than 58 in the 1st innings this time round!
They generally lose to us! The Ashes have gone to the home team (gone with serve as IBB might say) for the last 12 years with the single exception of 2010-11 when Strauss’ team slaughtered them in Australia.
M Exactly. Same as a win in football. 1-0 same as 6-0 as a result. The huge problem with test cricket is that the home team always wins. The even bigger problem is that a large proportion of test players don’t want to play it. It’s an inconvenience which has to be accommodated as swiftly as possible between white ball stuff. When they went to SA last month for tests, India had no warm up games. They really weren’t bothered. Compare this to the naked pleasure that my favourite team, Afghanistan, took in winning their qualifying tournament last week. It was the biggest positive thing which had happened to the team & possibly the country in living memory.
They won every series in the 1990's.. we won every series in the 1880's. It does tend to go home team wins but overall they are ahead in series and individual tests. So generally they win.
Assuming that your first memories are from aged 5 & that everyone on the forum is 17 or under, the point stands that England have won more than Oz.
One of my best mates brothers was a copper in Aylesbury and arrested Ossie when he had a set to with Sharon at their home in Bucks back in the 1990's. There's a famous pic of them handcuffed together. Talking of pics, i have one for nearly all occasions..
On the broader point, just check how many test matches/series in the last decade have been won by the away team. V few. The number of tests which are close & competitive is surprisingly few. Augurs badly for test cricket.
Ha! Has the long haired man been photoshopped in behind that glorious scarf? There was a similarly alarming one of Bojo in the town centre festooned in our scarf. Not lil old Wufford any more.
Yeah him & the mrs were guest of honour at our Carling cup QF game vs Pompey in 2004. http://world.watfordfc.com/page/GalleryArchive/0,,10400~596124,00.html
The current batch of cricketers, of course. As a young ‘un, a hero of mine was Dennis Keith Lillee, for the way he played the game. Bizarrely, in the 90s when she got involved in genealogy, my mother discovered that she was related to DKL. His father was born in Kent. The two actually look pretty similar, give or take a Zapata moustache. When our second was born, we couldn’t somehow find a name. We agreed that one was essential before mum & son left the hospital. On the take home pick up, I drove round the block 3 times before realising that he was a Dennis.
I’ve seen happier Hornets. This isn’t the patron who complained about the boring play vs Everton at the At Our Place, is it?
Fair point but I would have to say that some of the most sickening sports coverage I’ve seen was from the Windies tour of Australia in 1975-6. The racism wasn’t casual, it was formal. Whilst most of the abuse was dished out by the esky carrying heroes of Bay 17, the Australian team didn’t shirk having a go. The film Fire in Babylon covers all this. The stupendous silver lining was that this was the spur to the Windies golden age. Viv, Greenidge & Clive Lloyd had more dignity than to let that happen again. Also, Marshall, Roberts, Holding. Odd that I can name that team with more certainty than our starting 11 vs Liverpool.
Until the bans are slashed upon appeal in private independent hearings, here are my final words on the Aussie-3. Yes, cheating happens by all sides in all kinds of different ways and be it down to personal bias or the latent inner cheat in all of us we, by and large, look beyond it. It's difficult to sum up why this latest case has caused such a public outcry but I believe this piece may help paint a fuller picture of why cricket lovers and ex-pro's worldwide are glad to see Australian cricket brought down a peg or ten. Some of the links within the text prove just as interesting to read and are real eye openers. http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22961057/sanctimony-steve-waugh
I'm not sure if that's a typo and you really meant the 1980's, but either way that's not correct. The Aussies won in 1982 and in 1989 - and the 1881/82 series.
I wasn't sure where to post this - the Religion thread or this one. Probably less likely to offend on here though.
No time for warm-up.matches now as they're too busy playing money-making cricket. It would help if the away team could always decide whether to bat or bowl first
The first international cricket match was between Canada & the USA. It was in 1844 & was the first official fixture in any sport. Weird I know.
Watched, it would appear, by the American crowd equivalent of two old men and a dog. I'm finding a bit tricky to work out where the bowler was bowling from - and why the batting team have three batsmen on the field.
Early days of Sky graphics. The 2 men & a dog seems to be, in truth, one horse. Must have been some unease, even then, that cricket wasn’t going to catch on.
I’ll try and give a Aussie perspective - For the people here saying that they should be banned from all cricket both home and abroad - you do you realise that cricket Australia has done the ban and can realistically only ban them from matches where they represent Australia in some way or form ( whether that be internationals or state cricket etc ) For it to be a international ban then the ICC has to come in and do something ( for once ). The official ban that the ICC took against the players was - Bancroft 4 demerit points ( 5 equals one game ) And both smith and Warner lost there match payment !! Which is absolutely disgusting and shows how inecpt the ICC actually is. There’s been plenty of cricketers around the world that have been found guilty to ball tampering yet atleast Cricket Australia had the balls to ban them and so they should be !!! Warner can especially f*** off for life, he is a deadset grub !!
Batmen wearing helmets too - here was me thinking that helmets were a WSC innovation back in the 70's.