Coronavirus Werewolf Day 4

Discussion in 'Werewolf: The forum game' started by Otter, Mar 26, 2020 at 8:21 AM.


Coronavirus Werewolf DAY 4

Poll closed Friday at 8:21 AM.
  1. Grrwood

  2. HappyHornet24

  3. Horace_goes_up_north

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  4. hornetgags

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  5. lowerrous

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  6. miked2006

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  7. nornironhorn

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  8. steve harrow

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  9. wfcmoog

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  1. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    After Squibba's execution had been performed, everyone hurriedly left for their houses, however Miked2006 prepared the cannon for the next day, "Cannonball. Check. Gunpowder. Check. Matches. Check."
    Noticing that it had got a bit darker, Miked ran home as fast as he could but just as his home was in sight, he tripped and clattered on to the pavement. "Whoops-a-daisy", said a diabolical voice. Mike rolled round to see a wolf standing over him, the wolf held a paw up high so the claws glistened in the moonlight, the wolf laughed and then with an almighty force the paw came down but at the last second the paw was sliced off by a silver sword. "Begone wolf!", shouted the Guardian.

    The wolf smarting in pain headed home. The wolf entered his house and staggered in. Exhausted, the wolf went into the living room and there was standing another wolf, "A companion!" He exclaimed.
    The intruder wolf came forward with open arms and the injured wolf went to greet, but the intruder saw the injury, "You fool, you are infected with silver, you must die!" A thrash of claw ripped through his jugular, black blood gushed out and the wolf fell and once down he transformed into his human self.

    Optimistichornet was EVIL

    The 9 remaining players are:

    steve harrow

    Former players:

    Cthulhu - Lynched day 1.
    wfcwarehouse - Withdrew day 1.
    Burnsy - Killed night 1.
    Diamond - Killed night 1.
    Daft Row - Killed night 1.
    GoingDown - Lynched day 2.
    Cassetti's beard - Withdrawn.
    Squibba - Lynched day 3.
    Optimistichornet - Killed night 3.

    The village is open.

    * Remember that everyone must post twice.
    * I will timestamp messages when I post them on.
    * Village to close at 9pm (or earlier if votes are decisive).
  2. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    So there were two wolves, and one of them did appear to be hiding - steve?!

    And had we concluded that by yesterday the two wolves definitely already knew each other's identities? It would actually make sense as it appears the second wolf knew whose house to hide in last night.

    Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but does this mean the Guardian has somehow managed to pick a correct person to save on every night so far? Seems pretty crazy odds (or luck, or skill) if so.
  3. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    Still not me but I'm probably wasting my breath! Especially when I said feel free to lynch me if there's 2 kills. Idiot. Haha.

    With the odds so much against evil, otter may have used a full moon scenario. The seer and evil will know I'm good but the latter will be keen to start or encourage a campaign against me. Remember who that is when I'm dead and declared good.

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  4. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I stated my reasons pretty clearly for voting Squibba, apologies that they ended up being useless.

    Happy to take more of a back seat today in terms of putting forward logic as a result.

    That said, it can't be looking good for Steve at the minute.
  5. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    What I would say though is that if I was a wolf and said there would be only 1 kill, why would I then go out trying to kill someone that same night knowing it would rebound on me...?

    My theory is the last wolf went to kill Mike, the guardian was there and so Otter put a plan in place to have the wolf stumble home and be finished off by a new wolf. Otter has to keep us all from going mad this week. Think of him as our Rimmer... Sorry Otter

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  6. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    I'll lynch you myself for that!
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  7. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Wolf Activity:

    Night 1

    Diamond kills Burnsy but himself dies as a result of Burnsy having the virus. 1 wolf down.

    Another wolf goes to Hornetgags house. Hornetgags fends him off. This wolf was injured but remained.

    Another wolf kills Daft Row. This wolf remained.

    2 Wolves seemingly in the game after Night 1

    Day 2

    GoingDown lynched and confirmed as a member of team evil. Role unknown.

    Night 2

    One wolf goes to the house of Steve Harrow. This wolf left hungry but remained.

    In Steve's house, there was another wolf staring back. This wolf did not leave the house and Steve suggested it was him, just appearing different to wolves.

    No mention of any other wolves that night. 1 definite wolf and 1 potential wolf (Steve) still in the game.

    Night 3

    Opti goes to kill Miked. Opti ends up getting killed himself. Another wolf down.

    Another wolf kills Opti. This wolf remains.

    No mention of any other wolves.

    1 Wolf seemingly in the game after Night 3

  8. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Why would Opti have to be finished off by a new wolf? Why couldn't Opti just continue in his role when he returned home? Especially as no-one had really suspected him so far.
  9. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Thanks Guardian! Team Good have had a lot of luck so far - first game ever where they've killed more Evil than we have?

    It's amazing that my two main suspects for wolf on day 2 (Going Down and Opti) were both evil.

    Initial thoughts
    - I'd like the gunslinger to confirm that he didn't shoot Opti, even though the use of the terms "silver sword" and "infected with silver" suggests otherwise
    - If not, there are two options:
    1. There were two wolves. Opti tried to kill me and the second wolf chose to kill opti
    2. There's some strange unexplained role that Otter has created.
  10. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    One possible thing we could maybe be missing, and I suggested it might happen on day 2:

    When hornetgags shot a wolf to protect himself, the wolf may have become injured and then couldn't venture out for the next night. This could suggest that GD was actually the traitor and the reason for our reduction in wolf activity on night 2.

    The injured wolf may be healed now and hence active again.
  11. Grrwood

    Grrwood Reservist

    Don't forget this line from Otter last night:

    As the villagers left the scene they could see that on the west horizon the Sun was setting but on the east a full moon was rising.

    Is there a full moon mechanic that has been used in previous games?
  12. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    As a recap (mostly for myself):

    Diamond was killed at the end of day 1. We know that he was a wolf, as he killed the virus carrier.

    Opti was a wolf as he was killed last night after visiting me.

    GD was lynched and was Evil. I'm now starting to think that he may have been the traitor, given there is still a wolf left alive.
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  13. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    One of the wolves was hiding though - you could have been the hiding wolf.
  14. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    Well spotted.

    There have been full moons before. And annoyingly it means even people viewed as good previously can't be trusted now.

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  15. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    And then go out to kill last night when I said there would only be 1 wolf and therefore only 1 kill? Even I'm not that daft.

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  16. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    The aim for team Evil is to kill the players from team Good.

    Why would a wolf give up their main mechanism of removing a Good player, to stay alive another day? It doesn't make sense.
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  17. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    Last night there were 2 wolves - one went out to kill, but the second hid in the house of the first wolf.
  18. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    I didn't shoot Opti but I'm kicking myself because on day 2 I had Opti in my sights and allowed myself to be swayed. (Day 2 post #46) - should have stuck to my instincts.

    Opti was pushing GD as a wolf, clearly not knowing he was also evil at the time.

    Also, a sword slash would have infected the wolf with silver, so surely a silver bullet would have the same effect?
  19. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    People had seemed to have already concluded yesterday that if there were 2 wolves remaining, then 1 of them is likely steve.

    Therefore, if steve was indeed 1 of the wolves and still went for a kill it would have ultimately backfired anyway, as even if he'd killed a good villager then he'd have been a certainty to be lynched the next day.

    Therefore, the only potential way of diverting attention from themselves would have been to hide last night and hope that something else happened during the night and/or the next day which subsequently meant people started looking elsewhere again, meaning it would eventually be less risky to start killing again without attracting immediate suspicion.

    Unfortunately for steve this alternative plan also backfired, as the first wolf returned home injured and had to be killed.
  20. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Anonymous message #1 - Received 9:30

    Good morning Villagers,

    Super way to start today seeing Opti die.
    Excellent that we all made it through the night again and another evil is gone, let's see if we can get another.

    On day one I decided to view horace_goes_up_north and I confirmed he is good.
    On day two I decided to view steve harrow and I confirmed he is good.
    Yesterday I decided to view happyhornet24 and I can confirm she is good.
    Today I decided to view grrwood and I can confirm he is evil.

    As expected, the wolf's message is now trying to mimic mine. However, there are clues within my now three messages that link them together.

    Remember, unless necessary, do not give away all the clues. We have done well so far at knowing which message is the seer's.

    Let's work together to find these clues.

    Anonymous message #2 - Received 9:33

    Good morning Villagers,

    Some further good fortune whilst we were asleep.
    Exceptional defending from our Guardian last night and we are still in an excellent position.

    Monday I decided to view horace_goes_up_north and I confirmed he is good.
    Tuesday I decided to view steve harrow and I confirmed he is good.
    Yesterday I decided to view happyhornet24 and I confirmed she is evil.
    Today I decided to view wfcmoog and I can confirm he is good.

    Let's secure our dominant position by confronting happyhornet24 tonight.
  21. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    There is the possibility though that during the full moon last night we got another wolf and their first kill was Opti.
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  22. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    Well those are interesting messages. The seer knows and has again confirmed that I'm good, subject to what I say below.

    It seems to me that one of Grrwood or Happy must be evil? Or a tinker.

    As explained, my role is good but the wolf seems me as evil. Therefore the only way I can be killed is by being lynched.

    Because I know I'm good, I am more convinced than ever about the full moon scenario. Otter is a clever chap (and not at all Rimmer like...) and he's mentioned the full moon in his last post of yesterday very deliberately. Someone was turned evil last night and that means folk named good previously - myself and Horace - are no longer guaranteed good by the messages.

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  23. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    And HH24.

    The only one we can be sure about is Hornetgags as surely the full moon couldn't turn a gunslinger?
  24. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    Would seem unlikely wouldn't it? I guess not impossible but that would be overly confusing. The new wolf is more likely to have been a simple villager.

    You're better than me than interpretating the messages and working out what's what!

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  25. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    The full moon in the past has always changed the role of a villager. It is unlikely it would change someone who already has a role.
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  26. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    My gut instinct is that the first message is from the seer. The seer often leaves clues in their message and they are the person who generally benefits most from drawing attention to the message itself.

    We know that one of Grrwood or HH24 is evil. Whoever we go for today, if they are good we have to (irrespective of tomorrow's messages) vote for the other tomorrow.
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  27. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Yea, I've had a look at yesterday's messages and tend to agree.

    We all felt yesterday that we knew which message was which. Today, the messages have the same traits as yesterday.

    One message seems to name the days of the week. This is the message we felt yesterday was the wolf.
  28. Grrwood

    Grrwood Reservist

    Well this isn't ideal... I know I am good so either HH24 is evil or one of us is a tinker.

    If the full moon indicated a new wolf I agree that we now cannot rule out Horace or Steve unfortunately, however this probably shouldn't be the immediate concern.

    Yesterday I was leaning towards message 2 being from the seer, but with the other message naming me today I am obviously going to have to look at voting for HH24 unless something interesting happens today.
  29. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    If a full moon is called I may or may not get an additional bullet, but I'll be informed either way.

    As far as I'm concerned a full moon is not in play.
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  30. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Notwithstanding the possibility that one could be a tinker, but we have to ignore that possibility as by probability, it's more likely to lead us up the right path.

    I am more inclined to believe that Grrwood is evil, based on gameplay and that I felt the message naming HH as evil yesterday was from a wolf.

    I've only skim read today's thread so far, as in on a 3 hour conference call, but I'm tempted to go for GRrrwood so far.
  31. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I assume this was the lineup of team evil at the start:

    3 Wolves
    1 Traitor

    1 Wolf was Diamond
    1 Wolf was Opti
    GD was also evil.

    Steve appeared as a wolf to one of the other wolves but his story is that this is his role, to trick the wolves.

    If that is the case, we have 1 evil player remaining. Either HH24 or Grrwood.

    Would now be a good time to use a bullet? Once we hear from more players that is.
  32. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Morning all. A good night with another member of Team Evil gone. Opti wasn’t on my radar at all as a possible evil until he posted a message yesterday that basically spelled out a clue I thought I’d spotted in the Seer’s message. If you look at yesterday’s posts, I followed his message soon after with one reminding people not to publicly say what clues they had seen. Opti is a seasoned player and that raised big red flags for me - I suspected he might be getting a message to the wolves on how to copy the seer’s posts. For that reason, I thought he might be the traitor. However, the write up suggests he was a wolf, so maybe he was the beta and was trying to get a message to the alpha?
  33. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Remember it looks like we had a full moon last night, which would mean an extra evil player is possibly in the mix.
    Edit: just seen hornetgags post above so maybe not
  34. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Yes. I know who I'd like to use it on.
  35. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    In fact, I'm going to exercise my vote now after seeing a recent post.

    I have no doubts.
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