Communication.......

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by RookeryLad, Sep 23, 2019.

  1. RookeryLad

    RookeryLad Reservist

    It’s 1pm on the first business day back after the largest defeat the club has experienced in recent history.

    Nothing from the club. NOTHING.

    Their twitter posts consist of trying to flog Swansea tickets, Deeney on a bike and trying to flog a babies romper suit.

    The contempt they hold the clubs fans in is beyond the pale. Hoping that if they ignore it then it did not happen and will go away.

    The absolute minimum is a sincere apology to the supporters and a gesture of goodwill to those poor souls who travelled to Manchester to watch the abomination.

    This is not the Watford I know.
     
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  2. Sahorn

    Sahorn Reservist

    I’ve heard the club has told the players to agree amongst themselves how much they they will reimburse the travelling fans.

    Still arguing how much discount Foulquier gets as he was subbed after 31 minutes and QSF has fracked up his EPL career - and whether Foster should contribute double due to his inane, gurning, defeatist, d!ck for brain comments to the media.
     
  3. RookeryLad

    RookeryLad Reservist

    Strong first reply. The part about foster is beautifully poetic.

    Well done sir.
     
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  4. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    A perfectly fair and considered o.p. I agree with most of it. There, I said it.

    But I was't going to respond unless someone else did (they now have) on the grounds that it will all probably kick off again. So let's keep it civil.

    So maybe the club are thinking about recompense for the travellers. What would be reasonable? The price of a match ticket plus minimal travel (coach price) expenses? Say £50 p.h.? Did 4000 travel? If so, that's £200k. I doubt that the club or players will be going anywhere near that.

    Anyway, we need a general apology and something more substantial than a beer voucher for those that went.
     
  5. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    It’ll be a drink token and free coaches up to Wolves (or next following away game). At most. But I suspect it will be nothing at all.

    If players or the club were going to refund fans, the announcement would have been made within 24hrs I suspect.
     
  6. RookeryLad

    RookeryLad Reservist

    It’s not kicking off, no kick off please.

    #passionnotkickoffs

    I dont mind losing, it’s part of the game. What I do mind is lack of effort and care.-l

    That’s what annoys me.

    Get relegated with 0 points, not an issue if they give it 100%. You can support a trier.

    I can’t support lack of effort and a smiling, laughing, gurning keeper making bad records.

    As for compensation, I think it starts with an acknowledgement of the deep shame the players have brought on the club and supporters from all involved on Saturday.

    For those that went:

    1) Money to cover fair expense as you point out.
    2) ST discount next season / rebate this
    3) Free cup tickets to cover 5/6 games

    5) all players from Saturday in stocks along vicarage road with open license to let them have it
    6) tar and feather at the end of the Swansea game
     
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  7. RookeryLad

    RookeryLad Reservist

    Still nothing from the club.

    They have posted about spurs away being on sale to more gullible fools (yes I already have my ticket - can you get refunds?)

    Some of the comments to said tweet raised a smile, go and take a look.
     
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  8. RookeryLad

    RookeryLad Reservist

    #ImagineIf.........the club respected the fans one iota.
     
  9. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    The club should offer free travel to Anfield. That way they can offer their apology in advance.
     
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  10. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Free coaches to the Norwich game as it's Friday night and most of the Stone Island crew can watch it in The Flag.
     
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  11. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I think they’d be better welcomed if they rejected our away allocation for that game to save the fans the embarrassment.
     
  12. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Foster is quoted extensively in today's Telegraph and comes across very well, I think. Not sure what fans want him to do or say after an experience like Saturday's? Burst in to tears? Commit suicide?
     
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  13. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    Patience is the watch word. The whole club are still wetting their knickers after the scary experience of playing Citeh
     
  14. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Agreed. Better to laugh it off that carry a huge mental scar into the next couple of matches. I'd get Life of Brian on sky box office and some beers in to erase the memory. We go again.
     
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  15. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Smiling and laughing whilst w*nking over Aguero’s shirt wasn’t a great look though, be honest.
     
  16. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    At the next home match, the club should print t-shirts and leave them on every fan's seat with the logo "18 minutes and we're 5-0 down" .

    Let's be honest, that will never be surpassed, but if it is, it can only be achieved by us, and fans of other clubs will mock us ruthlessly. We may as well revel in being the worst of the worst.
     
  17. RookeryLad

    RookeryLad Reservist

    Defo, it’s a USP.

    We can have a sign above the tunnel stating “This is Vicarge Road - collect your 3pts here and enjoy your day.

    The fans can have the worlds biggest surfer flag depicting a big gaping rear end after yet another 8-0 rodgering.

    Up the Watty
     
  18. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Rather enjoying the fact that 'tommo1' thinks the expression is spelled 'poison challis'. Very bad news for Boycie.

    I am slightly shocked at the total lack of acknowledgement of what just happened, to be perfectly honest (I haven't actually posted here directly addressing the game at all, so please let's keep any responses totally devoid of liquid-based accusations one way or the other)

    That was the joint-second worst defeat the Prem has ever borne witness to. Not only that, but we set an English football record in how quickly we conceded a certain amount of those goals. The game was arguably over as a contest within one minute. It was fairly inarguably over as a contest within five, and within twenty it was one of the worst defeats we've ever suffered. But we weren't even nearly done.

    The fact that the sole response was to send out Foster, who, whilst nowhere near as bad as has been portrayed in some quarters, gave some answers that on reflection were really rather ham-fisted and insensitive given what the fans had just been treated to, is odd. No one wants to hear how beautiful the opposition's football is and what 'physical specimens' their players are when that physical beauty has just been turned on you with historic savagery. City are good; probably the best team ever to play in the Prem. But most teams don't actually get flayed by them. And it's not like we're a newly promoted team, playing almost a full XI of players who've never even featured in the English top flight before, thanks to injuries to seven potential starting players. You know, a team like Norwich? Can't imagine what would happen to a team like that in that situation... Meanwhile we are in our fifth consecutive year of being a Prem team, with a squad littered with current or former internationals.

    Last year Crewe went to Colchester in League Two and lost by the comparatively gentle score of 6-0. The manager himself told his players to refund their travelling fans' expenses. Five years ago, when Sunderland suffered the exact same fate as us, guess what? They refunded the tickets of travelling fans.

    In light of all that, that the official policy appears to have been to entirely pretend it just didn't happen is somewhat surprising, and even maybe a tiny bit arrogant and gaslight-y. Perhaps that is a deliberate tactic to help convince the players themselves that it actually didn't; if that is the case, I very much hope it works, because we'll be needing to do something rather miraculous to stop that from defining our season via the next two theoretically winnable games.
     
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  19. vic-rijrode

    vic-rijrode First Year Pro

    I think that the club should produce a commemorative yellow ball point with the 8-0 score down the side - or has this been done before?
     
  20. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Why would the club refund fans who have spent the morning falling over themselves to get tickets to what could be an equal debacle at Tottenham?

    Absolutely no need. These sheep will keep turning up whatever **** is thrown at them.
     
  21. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I've not checked to see if this is correct, but it sounds about right......incredible really.

    Watford FC Relegation Tour 19/20‏ @illmindof1 6m6 minutes ago
    Before the 16/17 season we had lost by a 5+ goal margin 4 times in the previous 40 years. In the last 3 & a bit seasons, we've lost by 5+ goals 7 times. What does that say about the professional integrity of our squad? Something needs to change
     
  22. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    We've all done it
     
  23. Hornet4ever

    Hornet4ever WFC Forums Last Man Standing Winner 2018/2019

    I can see 5 & 6 happening. Not 1-3

    What about 4 though?
     
  24. vic-rijrode

    vic-rijrode First Year Pro

    Who was in goal the last time we shipped 8 goals in a league or cup match?
     
  25. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Did Chelsea refund their fans when they lost 6-0 at the Etihad last season?
     
  26. vic-rijrode

    vic-rijrode First Year Pro

    Surely it's spelled with a "u"?
     
  27. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Ben Foster.
     
  28. vic-rijrode

    vic-rijrode First Year Pro

    Yes, absolutely right - let me rephrase that - the last but one time....
     
  29. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    I do get your point here, and I'm not totally dismissing it, but what it really says is that in the past few years we've been in the Premier League, and therefore exposed to the very largest extremes of the modern stratification of football; something that seems to be increasing at an exponential rate.
     
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  30. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    I don't know, did they?
     
  31. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    Agreed. I can only assume that our own supporters get a boner watching us get absolutely smashed and then come on forums like this crying. No wonder this country and society in general is in such a mess
     
  32. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Mainly against Man City and Liverpool it has to be said - we haven't faced such sides too often !

    The issue with Saturday is that we made it too easy for them and lost our discipline from the off - 2 of the first 3 goals came from our fouls and another from a corner .

    Talk about shooting yourselves in the foot

    The only non avoidable goal was the last one which was a decent shot had to be said .

    What were those 4 times where we lost by 5 goals or more ?
     
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  33. vic-rijrode

    vic-rijrode First Year Pro

    "are" is the new "of".
     
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  34. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    We got a good d1cking Saturday. We know that. What are you suggesting? Fans boycott all future away games? Are you a Geordie?
     
  35. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Chelsea weren’t bottom of the league, without a victory and hummed 5-0 within 18 minutes...
     
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