Chelsea vs Watford FC - 21/10/2017

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by V Crabro, Oct 7, 2017.

  1. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    Sorry meh, read my post above your maths is spot on! cheers!
     
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  2. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Whatever. Don't try to cover yourself you time travelling witch. Come on. Tell us the results for the rest of the season...
     
  3. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    Just because I am a past winner of the score prediction league doesn't mean I'm going to share my predictions with someone who forum name is one of the first words ever uttered by man!
     
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  4. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Presumably more so since we are actually 6th.
     
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  5. Richarlison4ever

    Richarlison4ever Academy Graduate

    Any News on Pereyra? So glad he got to shove it in Conte's face about the fact he didn't rate him at Juventus.
     
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  6. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    And only have 15 points I think.
     
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  7. Necrobutcher

    Necrobutcher Reservist

    Did Abramovic have a word with Marco?

    Apart from sending Gomes up front as a wide forward and putting Derek Payne on as a lone defender, it's difficult to imagine a worse change he could have made with the way the game was going.
     
  8. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    We all agree it didn't work, hopefully he has crossed that one off he list of " to do " items, when we are playing the top 19!

    Putting Ben on against Palace when we are 5-0 up would be just about acceptable!
     
  9. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    All those saying Silva didnt cost us the game are deluded.

    Taking Deeney for Watson put us on the back foot. We had Carillo on the right, Richarlison up front and Cleverly on the left. The balance was awful from there on in. Its pretty clear we are better attacking teams. Such a defensive sub basically said to Chelsea "go on see if you can break us down". And they did.



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  10. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Oh and just to be clear im fully behind Silva. The football we are playing is brilliant. He just made a mistake. He'll learn.

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  11. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    But would an attacking substitution have made us any less vulnerable defensively?
     
  12. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    We were better off playing on the front foot and defending higher up the pitch. Chelsea are too good to sit back like that against.

    It was a mistake to take Deeney off for Watson. A like for like would have been fine.

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  13. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    I don't disagree. I myself wasn't happy at the time. However, I don't feel that in isolation cost us the match.

    I always enjoy your posts by the way.
     
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  14. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Surely the failure to convert one of four,possibly five great chances cost us the game?
    3-1 the game is beyond Chelsea.4-1 and Conte is packing his bags.
     
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  15. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    Agree. I argued this point a couple of pages ago. We lost in my opinion to a combination of poor finishing when on top, a bad decision for the first goal and our very poor defending of crosses. Whether the substitution helped us lose too is a matter of opinion, and in fairness to both sides of the debate we will probably never know.

    We did take the game to Chelsea after Deeney had gone off (80 mins) because in the 83rd or 84th minute Kabasele had a decent chance after a good cross by Femenia.

    I'm with Harrow though in not liking the message the substitition sent out, and I was surprised because it seemed out of kilter with our previous attacking positive attitude, both in that match and throughout the season so far.
     
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  16. Siohmy

    Siohmy Reservist

    I would say that Silva’s changes didn’t solve the issue myself. Chelsea were getting on top and starting to dominate midfield. Now whether he should have brought on Capoue as opposed to Watson or maybe Watson when Pereya got injured in order to leave Deeney as a target man, that may have been better.
     
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  17. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Another great performance, a shame we weren't clinical enough in front of goal to kill the game off, the final nail in the coffin came with the negative substitution.
     
  18. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Bury it, more eco-friendly and use it to mulch your cucamelons.
     
  19. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Gray doesn't represent a like for like with Deeney, he's a different sort of player. (The debate about whether or not he is good enough is a separate one). Okaka might have been, however, but he wasn't on the bench. I'm not a great fan of Okaka, but neither do I think he's poor; but what has happened to him?
     
  20. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Maybe not a like for like but hes a striker. Not having a striker upfront cost us. One thing less for the shaky Chelsea defence to worry about.

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  21. Bahrain Hornet

    Bahrain Hornet Academy Graduate

    A big if I know but 3-1 and definitely 4-1 I believe there would of been no way that Chelsea team would have come back!
    Their heads would have dropped, the fans would be going mental and they would have lost all confidence to fight so we would have been able to contain them a little easier.
    Then the Watson/ Deeney sub would of made more sense!
    By missing our chances alone gave the Chelsea players a huge boost so they knew they we’re still in it and with fresh attacking legs against our tiring defence ones, well we know the rest!


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  22. Sort of OK

    Sort of OK Reservist

    As KVA said, started them off under cover but planted them out once it had warmed up. Not sure why I didn't do them again this year? Mine were James Wong (?) seeds, he has a range of slightly odd stuff, tried a few but they were about the only ones that have worked or been worth the effort. I'd steer clear of the Asparagus beans, tough as old boots if you are 3 seconds late picking them.

    I too grew the kalette things you mentioned a few years ago, quite liked them, think mine were described as rosette sprouts or something but think they are the same.

    God I'm getting old!
     
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  23. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    It could never have been 4-1. It's complete commentator balls.
     
  24. Bahrain Hornet

    Bahrain Hornet Academy Graduate

    Fair enough but at 2-1 up and playing the way we were I never thought we’d lose 4-2!


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  25. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Mr IBB and I are off to Cambridge today to throw him off a nearby tower!
    Before that I shall be sending Stephen (the twig) down the Cam for his burial.
    Prayers will be said in thanks for his service and in the hope that I can discover another piece of lucky foliage.
    RIP Stephen.
     
  26. Jossy

    Jossy Reservist

    Well I was away for the game, but managed to see it in a bar that was mostly full of Chelsea fans. The rubbish that came out of their mouths during the match went something like this - "we're the greatest, 'av it; f**ks sake, we've been rubbish this half; we're getting torn apart by f**king Watford, we're that s**t; f**k me they should be out of sight, ******* all over us; c'mon the Chelsea, only one winner now; get in there, what a comeback, was never in doubt against this load of s**t"
    And they looked just as stupid as they sounded.

    Having read everybody's assessment of the game I pretty much agree - the substitution of Watson on for Deeney and the loss of Pereyra hit us hard, but it was great to see us really take it to the champions on their own turf. We're not just here to survive, we're competing with teams on an almost equal footing that only a few years ago we'd have never believed:).
     
  27. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    Don't forget that Chelsea's substitutions played their part too. .... So long as lessons get learned I have absolutely no qualms about this result, it was a free hit anyway.
     
  28. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    [THREAD DRIFT]I bought quite a few of his "OTW" tomato and cucumber plants last season (2016) and not one of them grew. They were quite dear AISTR.[/THREAD DRIFT].
     
  29. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Stephen is floating down the Cam.
    Fortunately he missed the two punts full of Japanese tourists and was last seen heading towards Grantchester.Hopefully he won't come into contact with Archer!
     
  30. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    That's pretty any and every fan that plays us, in fact, that's our fans when we play someone near the bottom.
     
  31. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Commiserations to Steve, but you've gotta be ruthless in this league
     
  32. Sort of OK

    Sort of OK Reservist

    Agreed, if he was no longer adding value then needed to be moved on, can't afford passengers. Never caused problems though so wish him well and hope the injury clears up.
     
  33. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    My worry is that IBB won't be able to test his successor's luckiness before Saturday
     
  34. Sort of OK

    Sort of OK Reservist

    That's what I found with some of the unusual stuff that will apparently enjoy our climate, nothing happened at all or I had to nurse them like a ailing relative for months only to find the end product wasn't very nice anyway.
     
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  35. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    It's true enough Ub.
    I have been pondering this on court this morning and whilst stocking my new fridge freezer ( the old one died too but I resisted the temptation to send that into the Cam!)
    I can only hope that before Saturday I find another lucky item to adopt and bring with me to the game.
    Foliage,vegetable,monetary...who can say?
     

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