Discussion in 'Yellow Pages' started by Knight GT, Apr 21, 2020.
Must try harder
If you're thinking about programming, there is some advice on this thread:
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Here’s one for you, come and join the North American railroads as a manager. You do very little training you follow around and observe unionized employees that have had 6-8 month training passed numerous tests on rules and signals that have to be updated every 3 year. Tell people how to do their job even if they’re 30+ year veterans in the trade. You’ll do all this on less money than the unionized employees ( unless you move up the ladder which wouldn’t happen for years) work more hours. Always be able to answer a phone and jump higher when asked to jump.
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I'm kind of in a similar boat, I enjoyed my line of work for the first decade or so because I was working up the ladder and had a goal. Now I've plateaued and in my current workplace I'll be in the same position for another 30+ years, doing exactly the same work. Not exactly motivating.
I wasn't sure what I wanted to change to either, so instead of the type of work I concentrated on the workplace - company size (a small office isn't for me), promotion potential, training availability, benefits, and work\life balance. Because I want a large office, with plenty of progression and decent perks close to home it really narrowed down my options. I'm currently through to the 3rd phase of the recruitment process.
Thanks for the reply. That’s a good way of looking at it. I’ll bear that in mind, although I agree with earlier posts that currently it’s possibly not the best time to be changing paths.
Best of luck with your application!
Nothing worse than when you're at work, eyes fixed on the clock, watching the hours slowly go by... only to then realise that those hours sat behind a desk in an office shared with 50 other people were spent, and you're now 8 more hours closer to death. To think that people are happy working in an office for 40/50 years of their life to then retire for the final decade or more [if they're lucky] to spend not working and bored out of their minds.
I've been made redundant in my job, although I do have the opportunity to re-apply for a newly created managerial role.
The pay-out after 11 years service was ok, lump sum of £25k. I'm 36, so probably at an age where I can launch a new career.
I've got a potential opportunity to work with a mate on £11k a year less basic but £14k a year more with commission (going by average earnings over the last few years), however, it means travelling to Basingstoke every day from Portsmouth (about an hour).
I've built up 11 years service where I am currently and am very confident I would be successful in the Managerial re-shaping the Business is going through, but the opportunity to earn £14k-£15k a year more than my current salary is very tempting, not to mention the lump sum which will eradicate about £700 a month off of my outgoings. The dilemma is with this bloody pandemic how safe is it to re-start somewhere else and get left out in the cold if it doesn't work out? Married with kids, so got far too much responsibility to just gamble.
Any advice would be very welcome, thanks.
Sorry to hear you have been put in this dilemma at this difficult time, normally I would say go for it, but right now who knows what the **** will happen.
Overall though it sounds to me like that what is on offer is probably your best option, because there is a lot of people out there who are just being dumped by their employers, so I would imagine it's pretty competitive out there in the open jobs market.
It sounds to me though that your company think you are a good employee and would rather keep you than lose you, so maybe you should stick with the devil you know for now.
Good luck mate, I'm glad my working days are over as it must be pretty tough out there at the moment, but once the world wakes up from this mass hysteria we are going through right now I think we will bounce right back with a vengeance.
Now go and get some sleep
My first consideration would be how many of your colleagues are being made redundant too. I used to work in a very volatile industry where redundancies would happen every 2-3 years, from my experience a minor wave of redundancies makes little difference to the atmosphere, but if there's a major wave it's like a completely new office afterwards. After the first big wave only two of my friends were left, and it took a few years to get back to enjoying work. When 300 out of 400 were due the big R, I took voluntary so I didn't have to go through all that again - the ones that remained have all said they regret not doing the same.
In other words, if the round of redundancies is big then applying for the new managerial role is similar to a new company anyway - so follow the money and your mate. If the round of redundancies is small, you enjoy working at that company and you're confident there then stay where you are.
I’m off this week, so with the holiday abroad cancelled it gives me opportunity to reflect and make a decision before I go back.
If there's one mantra I take away from my working life which is coming to an end is, It's better to regret something you have done, rather than regret something you haven't done.
I had two opportunites to change career, didn't take the risk and regretted it later.
Personal circumstances obviously need to be taken into account and without dependents it's easy for me to say this, but I'd go for it. Give it a couple of years and if it does'nt work out you yan change again. It's all valuable experience.
Hard to say without knowing the nature of the business your mate has, and what the commission is based on. Maybe I'm more risk-averse, but helping senior management re-shape your current business is also good experience which could lead to some further opportunities in management consultancy roles. If not, then presumably you could still work with your mate further down the line. Forward planning based on earning +25k over basic on commission is a bit of a gamble, especially if the business is susceptible to lower sales due to the pandemic...