Burnley 1-0 Watford FC - 09/12/2017

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by Otter, Dec 6, 2017.

  1. Luther Bassett

    Luther Bassett Reservist

    There’s Ancient Greece and there’s Greek. Not sure there’s Ancient Greek.
     
  2. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Yes there is. It’s an extinct language like Latin.
     
  3. Luther Bassett

    Luther Bassett Reservist

    Oh, right. All looks the same to me
    Good punchline by UB, in any case.
     
  4. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    What I see on here more and more is peoples complete inability to see others points of view, especially on match situations. For me it was a red card, wasn't a penalty and Burnley were far better than I thought they would be. Others completely disagree and they're more than entitled to be wrong. My point being that going on and on that your point of view is correct and not even bothering to look at a things from a different point of view is a bit sad.
     
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  5. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    BREAKING NEWS:

    Watford have appealed against the red card on Saturday. That will be very interesting to see if it's overturned.
     
  6. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    The club are appealing the against red card. Ooops.....you better tell the club it was a "reckless challenge and a potential leg breaker". Maybe the club needs its nappy changed?

    Alternatively you could just be completely wrong with your view and have made a complete t1t of yourself......again. No surprise there.
     
  7. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    I do hope so, otherwise I have bought £50 of obsolete text books!
     
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  8. Halfwayline

    Halfwayline Reservist

    HB1 - he’s not wrong in his view and nor are you. That tackle had the “potential” to be a leg breaker but actually ended up being fairly harmless

    What, I presume, we can all agree on is that Marvin did not need to go in with two feet when there was no real threat and give the referee a decision to make
     
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  9. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    I'd have waited until after the appeal decision before accusing others of being completely wrong.

    Though it is interesting that a poster who over the years has consistently complained of an FA and referee conspiracy against our club is now putting all their trust within that same system in order to 'win' an opinion based argument with another poster.

    'The enemy of my enemy is my friend' I guess.
     
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  10. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    What I saw is when Zeegelaar goes into the tackle one foot is planted on the floor, so it's not a two footed lunge. There is a moment when it comes off the floor, but he is not flying through the air with both feet towards the player. He's clearly going for the ball and he actually kicks the ball away. The foot that kicks the ball away then kicks his opponent, but the other foot is on the ground by then. This is why I believe the club have appealed. One foot is showing studs but not going at any real force.

    He had to have been sent off for "serious foul play". The definition of this is "serious foul play occurs when a player challenges for the ball or tackles an opponent with excessive force or brutality when the ball is in play. In order for this to occur, the offence must be committed by a player who is challenging for the ball while it is in play."

    Of course it is open to interpretation, but I do not consider what he did as anything different to a number of tackles you see all the time in every game.
     
  11. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    It's actually you and a few others that constantly promote this lie about conspiracy. I guess if you say it enough, mud sticks. If you care to read what I actually write, you will see I only think there's a few bad eggs in the game, that do things for their own personal reasons. We are unfortunately the type of club that you can dump on without too much of a consequence.

    I am entitled to respond to someone who has been abusive for no apparent reason. The fact the club has appealed, clearly shows that the challenge was not as bad as he made out.

    It's irrelevant if the appeal is upheld or not. It just goes to show even the club think it was a harsh red card. So my original view did not merit the sort of abuse it was given.
     
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  12. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    My view is that he was out of control when he made that challenge. It ended up OK but as he launched himself it was dangerous. If the club have appealed it then they must be fairly confident it will be overturned, but I'm not so sure.
     
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  13. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Yeah, it's different to modern Hellenic.

    Latin, however, is not extinct and is spoken all over Latin America.
     
  14. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    How are we even still talking about this ******* non-event of a game? I hope they skipped it on MOTD
     
  15. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    American Latin, like American English is a bit different from the original.
    Eg Caesar non supra grammaticos. They use Cesar.
     
  16. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    I await the verdict of the objective panel. Settle down a bit eh sonnyboy?
     
  17. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    It makes no difference what the verdict will be. The fact it's even being appealed is enough to tell you it's not as reckless and a leg breaker as you described. If it was then it clearly wouldn't be appealed. Did they appeal the Britos dismissal? Of course not as that WAS reckless.

    Just accept you got this one wrong, and I will accept an apology for the unfair abuse you dished out in good grace, if you're big enough to offer one.
     
  18. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I'm sorry. Sorry I read this thread.
     
  19. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Anyway hb1, prior to me suggesting that you needed to change your nappy you'd launched into a diatribe suggesting that the sending off was a conspiracy between Probert and Clattenburg and suggested that 'the tackle' wasn't even a foul. And you've done that sort of stuff for yonks. Every club's got their top dog conspiracy 'it's always the ref what done it' theorist. All subjective to a fault. Unfortunately, you're our one.
    You were doing an hb1 on the Shoutbox too.
     
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  20. Luther Bassett

    Luther Bassett Reservist

    Bloody show off...
     
  21. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Don't be a tw.t hb1. I'll make a list of your inconsistencies over the last couple of days if I can be arsed.
     
  22. LondonOrn

    LondonOrn Squad Player

    Think you've answered your own question there - what was Zeegelaar supposed to do under those circumstances under pressure?

    As for Rich's supposedly excessive diving - haven't seen anything there to merit such criticism. Would any of you be complaining if it won us the odd free kick? It's hardly on the level of Zaha or some of Muff's worst play-acting.
     
  23. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Looks pretty similar to me.
     
  24. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    More abuse and no apology. Why am I surprised. Do you realise, constantly calling someone a c*** in every post doesn’t make you look very bright?
     
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  25. Just watched extended highlights. Probert giving a foul in the second half giving Burnley a free kick centre of goal 25 yards out (76 minutes) is the most laughable decision of all. No contact, Arfield falling backwards before Kabasele got anywhere near him, Probert 5 yards away. The ****.

    So blatant that a reasonable person could only conclude that he was determined to hand it to Burnley. Or he is medically blind.
     
  26. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    As far as I'm aware you're the only one that's used the c word on this thread. But make it up as you go along why don't you? I'm used to the modus operandi now. Why not make up a doppelganger account to back you up because no-one else will?

    Hb1. The gift that keeps on digging.
     
  27. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    How old are you two - presumably over school age!?

    You can always PM each other to continue this "debate"...
     
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  28. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Your point is?
     
  29. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Most people over a mature age would have stopped petty arguments some time ago..
     
  30. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Why's it petty? It's about the need for football fans (juveniles) always needing to blame someone else (refs and linos) for their misfortunes despite those who they regail against being the best professionals available versus amateurish, subjective little wimps with f.ck all badges whatsoever.
     
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  31. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Well you might be right - just like managers and players fans will look for somebody else to blame when things go wrong but clearly you aren't going to agree with each other on this matter and the name calling won't help very much.
     
  32. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5168261/Marco-Silva-asks-referees-not-make-example-Watford.html
    http://www.skysports.com/watch/vide.../refereeing-standards-different-for-big-games

    I'm assuming you are speaking about Marco Silva, as he is placing blame at referees. I'm pretty sure he's got the correct badges though.
     
  33. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

  34. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Bassett v Bassett!
     
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  35. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I very much doubt that. So why are you so against Silva? I think he's going a very good job. Was it because he wanted to speak with Everton? I think you need to get over that.
     

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