[SIGNED loan] Andre Carrillo

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  1. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Unless his name is Bale.

    Or Pereyra of course...
     
  2. Reggy

    Reggy Academy Graduate

    Amrabat on the wing, or an advanced midfield three, or anywhere other than the impossible wing back role that Walter gave him, makes me want to give him a chance...
     
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  3. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    He's a wide player, playing anywhere on the wing should not be 'impossible' for him. I agree he may be more adept in certain areas but he hasn't shown that really. Look at Milner at Liverpool for instance. I would even accept him just being competent but he hasn't been. Time to get rid whilst we can get a decent price from abroad.
     
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  4. Still think he should be given a chance, plus big double yawn with a cheese filling, walnuts and grated marshmallow.
     
  5. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    How many chances does the useless **** get? If we're to progress this season players of his very limited ability shouldn't be anywhere near the 25.
     
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  6. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    Fixed. You are welcome.
     
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  7. Same as any player that was potential POS first half of the season, injured for a couple of months and then suffered in a poorly performing team playing in a position that did not suit him.

    If he does turn out to be poop then I'm with you 100%. But he did enough good last season to be given a chance between now and the end of August.

    If he gets back to his early form, we are sorted for a winger. I'm happy for you to ignore that, thankfully Gino is unlikely to.
     
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  8. Ainzrocker

    Ainzrocker First Year Pro

    I still think Amrabat has value in the squad. Has looked dangerous and often our best player when fully fit and played in his natural position. Our only other options on the wing are Success, who has been inconsistent, and Berghuis, who isn't guaranteed to be around and will at least need time to integrate fully into the first team. Until we can point to a real class act coming in we could do a lot worse.
     
  9. aushornet

    aushornet Academy Graduate

    Amrabat still has value in the squad until we find someone better. This shouldn't really be too hard based on the end of last season.

    My biggest issue with Amrabat isn't his final delivery, but his inability to maintain momentum going forward. This won't work with Silvas style of play, but if Silva can train it out of him and remind him how to go past a defender then I'm happy to give him a chance.
     
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  10. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    My issue with Amrabat is that he takes too long on the ball, kills attacks often, isn't skillful enough, is scared to beat players, doesn't score goals and clearly isn't versatile enough to play where the manager asks. I agree Mazzarri didn't help him and yes he got injured - but that didn't do enough to mask his shortcomings. Ask yourself how many other teams he would get in in the PL - 2 or 3? We need to aim higher than that.
     
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  11. I agree with you in the sense of hoping to get the best out of him. I was massively disapointed with him when he came back from injury, because he did appear to have lost the will to attack the box as he had in the first half of the season, and subsequently we were loosing momentum.

    I strongly suspect this was comong from Walter, which is why I think we may see a better player under Silva.
     
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  12. Ray Knight

    Ray Knight First Year Pro

    According to Clubcall the Carillo deal might be back on at 8 million pounds so not a loan. Much arm twisting in Portugal? Gino gives order to prepare the winger sized crate for shipment!
     
  13. in the coming months Carrillo will be the father of twins and does not intend to change country.
     
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  14. Nnnn

    Nnnn First Team

    I hope he doesn't dress them the same. People shouldn't do that.
     
  15. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    It's very confusing if you are trying to remember their names too!

    Your only retort is to follow Bill Nighy's lead in Love Actually and call them 'Ant or Dec'.
     
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  16. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    I think I read in that report that he was still playing for Sporting. Take it with a pinch of salt.
     
  17. ITKJim

    ITKJim Reservist

    He's **** anyway, stay well clear. Apparently.
     
  18. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    3 and a half days and that's the best you do?

    You've been rumbled mate.
     
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  19. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    I should get a response to my Deeney question in a day or so then.

    NITKJim
     
  20. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    He's hardly ****. Fell out with sporting after the owner slated him. So got his own back by moving to their rivals. Benfica have a great side who he struggled to start for. Still scored and created more than most of our so called creative players.
     
  21. Ray Knight

    Ray Knight First Year Pro

    Surely you don't mean Amrabat!
     
  22. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Berghuis had a great record at Twente and last season at Feyenoord. Yet some people think he won't cut it. Dutch league not much different from Portuguese in standard. I'm not saying he's not a good player but stats can be used both ways.
     
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  23. East Stand Builder

    East Stand Builder Reservist

    Having portugeause family and friends I watch a lot of football over there... mainly The red eagles. Carrillo is a great player, yes lost his way slightly the last 12 months but he would be a fantastic addition. Better than that **** Amrabat.
     
  24. Avispón

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  25. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    What's with the Amrabat hate? Why's he a **** all of a sudden? You might not think he's a good enough player on the pitch but it's not like he's got an attitude problem or lazy?

    You sound link some of our fans at Leicester away, who for some reason took his poor performance as a personal insult, very odd.
     
  26. ITKJim

    ITKJim Reservist

    Great player and yes, great players need convincing to come to Watford. But there is a difference between convincing a player and them buying into the club (Pereyra) and throwing money at a player. Carrillo might come to love it here like Pereyra clearly does but the line about bascially paying him whatever he wants concerns me.
     
  27. TheHorn97

    TheHorn97 Academy Graduate

    This lad looks decent and probably better than our current options. Don't understand the Amrabat hate though, I know he dropped off completely after his injury but before that he was one of our best players. He would have had a lot more assists earlier in the season if our strikers had bothered to get into the box
     
  28. ITKJim

    ITKJim Reservist

    Sorry, I don't buy that argument. We played with 2 up front for most of the season, he should have picked people out. Putting it into an area is what good Championship wingers do, we need more quality from wide areas this year.
     
  29. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    That's a few times you've said he's a great player but I just don't see the evidence of where we can be sure of that...
     
  30. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    He did put them in the right areas but we had very little movement up front.
     
  31. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    It's hard to pick out players when they're no where to be seen in the box.
     
  32. ITKJim

    ITKJim Reservist

    Surely if you've watched him play over a season, which I have, I'm allowed the opinion that he'll be a great player for us. Or do you disagree with me on everything now?

    Ps. Better tell Marco he's **** as well.
     
  33. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Ahahahahaha
     
  34. Goldenorn

    Goldenorn Academy Graduate

    Think it's clear that Marco might already think this, seeing as he has 3 players including Sinclair in front of him in the pecking order of a wing position so far.
     
  35. ITKJim

    ITKJim Reservist

    That's my point, he slings it into the box without attempting to pick someone out. Okaka was a monster in the air for Anderlecht and we didn't exploit that last season.
     
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