[RUMOUR] Abdoulaye Doucoure

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by a19tgg, Jan 7, 2018.

  1. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    I'm pretty sure Deeney picked Cholabah and Pereya as the 2 best players at the club. He said Chalobah just glides around and makes football look so easy. Something like that. It has been a big long term injury but I'm hopeful he'll prove his ability soon.
     
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  2. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    he was ***** again v newcastle. Drop the ****
     
  3. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    Mirror reporting (29 Nov edition) that Marco Silva and Everton want to sign Doucoure. If the price is right, would we be prepared to let him go. And would he want to go to Everton?
     
  4. I would let him go because although I think he is still a reasonable player, he is already not the player he was and I don't think he ever will be as good again, so it is probably time to cash in while we still can.

    However, I would prefer not to sell him to "The Snake", but having said that, if they were willing to pay waaaaaaaaaaaay over the top and with a big sell on clause just in case, then Everton would be welcome to him, plus it would be good selling them a relatively passed it player at a premium price.
     
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  5. Moose

    Moose First Team

    We don’t have a nailed on replacement as of today. Chalobah is returning very slowly, Cleverley has a way to go. We’d need a Hector Herrera level replacement, maybe someone like Hector Herrera.
     
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  6. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Is this part of a stand up routine? If so you've got good material.
     
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  7. carboy98

    carboy98 First Year Pro

    Key first team player + The Snake Factor = Big Bucks needed
     
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  8. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Really don't think we should even contemplate this unless we have a better player lined up. Given Doucs would go for £50m ish I can't believe a ready-made player of that standard would be looking to join us.
     
  9. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    If they want him, £80 million and they'll get him
     
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  10. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    I really don't think anyone would give us £50m for Doucoure at present - he's not shown he's worth that over the last few months of last season and the first few of this campaign.
     
  11. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    He's under a long term contract and if they want him they must believe that he's worth at least that. If you don't believe he is, I guess you believe we should sell him for £50m and buy a better player for £50m ? I doubt we would sell him for less.
     
  12. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    He's not actually as good as I thought he was. He can leave, I wouldn't shed a tear to be honest.

    In fact, I couldn't care less about any of our players really. I like pereyra for the way he treated that fan in that video, but if he left I woudn't be distraught. They are an unlikeable bunch when all is said and done.
     
  13. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    You need to consider what the 20-or-so fans who sing will do. Any players with chants fitting any sort of tune have been flogged off, Abdi, Ighalo, Richarlison. The droaning of EW&F’s September is all they have left.

    I’m not counting He’s Coming Home
     
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  14. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    I don’t follow?

    You’re saying he’s automatically worth £50m just because he’s under a long-term contract?

    Would I sell him for £50m? In a heartbeat. Realistically, I think his form has plateaued and he’s probably worth anywhere between £30m - £40m....and to be honest, I’d be surprised if anyone decided to pay that amount right now.

    Don’t get me wrong, he’s a good player. But he’s not worth £50m if he can’t retain his form for a longer period.
     
  15. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I think it's important to remember Doucoure did not train or play during pre-season. Some players wouldn't be able to hold down a starting position in that scenario but he's still a first choice pick.
     
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2018
  16. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    I’ve been shocked how less effective he has been this season compared to a year ago. Has he been the same since his agent was touting him in Jan?

    A case of a player seemingly turning his own head.

    Chalobah is the obvious replacement.

    I appreciate all the stuff about easing players back in but Chalobah’s job is to play football so I think that’s what he should ******* do.
     
  17. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Think he will set his sights higher than Everton TBH .
     
  18. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Gino should charge a 10% premium for players with readymade songs.

    All part of the modern entertainment package.
     
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  19. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    No of course I'm not, but if Everton want to sign one of our key players of the last 2 seasons when we have no need to sell, what price do you think we'll ask for him ? £25m ?
    We'd need to replace him with a player of similar quality - what would he cost ?
    Our model given recent player cost inflation should be to sell our stars for £50m when they really want to leave and buy promising quality replacements for £20m-£25m max.
     
  20. I'd have to take £50m for Doucoure, that's a heck of a lot of cash, more than he's probably ever going to be worth.

    Yes it's a short term hit but it will continue to fund long term ambition.

    Chalobah the obvious replacement, not to forget Cleverley so we wouldn't be in bad shape.

    I think also we have a young DM somewhere on loan?
     
  21. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    I hope that West Brom waved that charge on Foster’s fee.

    Fits the new Pozzo model: Buy a load of unknown young players with easily adaptable names in the hope that they are good enough for the 1881 to write a chant. Then sell the package at a profit.
     
  22. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss Squad Player

    You can never have enough players in your team that bear a canny resemblance to a rat. Or at a push another rodent type creature.

    For that reason its a yes from me.
     
  23. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    The only problem is, chalobah's **** now too.
     
  24. Ray Knight

    Ray Knight First Year Pro

    I Don't care if they can't pay - they Don't get. We should only sell if they pay and he wants to go. If we keep Doucoure for 5 more years that suits me. One of the very best midfielders in the EPL.
     
  25. Moose

    Moose First Team

    Lee Bowyer says you are wrong. With his face.
     
  26. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Well obviously.

    Your response is written as if I’m suggesting we should sell him cheap or for less than he’s worth. That’s not the case at all. I’m saying that in my opinion, he’s not worth £50m currently. It suits me just fine that no club will pay that because I enjoy him being at our club.

    Things like winners medals, international recognition, and most importantly consistently high form - those are the attributes that push him being worth around £50m. He’s capable of all of those things but as yet hasn’t either of the first two and his form has dropped off.

    If they have the cash, I think Everton are the type of club to pay over the odds for him. I actually think he’d be reluctant to go there though. I don’t see any of the Top 6 clubs going for him right now.

    I agree he’s one of the best midfielders in the PL outside the Top 4 or 5. But he’s not shown that much this season IMO.
     
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  27. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss Squad Player

    His face is definitely wrong . And I think everyone is a snowflake .
     
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  28. Ray Knight

    Ray Knight First Year Pro

    Despite the result thought he was much better against Liverpool. Almost seemed like he wanted to catch Klopp's attention. No players are worth these ridiculous fees but just because he plays for little Watford means he is neither cheaper or available. He only got a new contract in August so there is no internal pressure to sell just the usual media speculation.
     
  29. Bore

    Bore Reservist

    No t less than 50m. No need to sell him and is important for us. Not playing his best but he will c9me back and when he does 50m is fair.

    Stick him in a Liverpool/ Man U side and he would be great I reckon and pretty sure worth more than 50m.

    Would be surprised if he went toEverton - if on market would have thought it would be a bidd8ng war. Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs could all do with a player like him.
     
  30. Rookery Refugee

    Rookery Refugee First Year Pro

    ManU doesn't need him. They need a creative playmaker in midfield. he Arse is the most likely, probably followed by Spuds (although they do hate to spend money). Think it's more likely someone on the continent. PSG evidently has an eye on him from time to time, and Bayern is long in the tooth.
     
  31. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss Squad Player

    I love Doucoure, but I sometimes wonder if his technique will let him down in a top 6 team. Yeah hes got the teckers, and usually does one or two things in a game that take your breath away, but he gives the ball away far too often for my liking.
     
  32. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    It has nothing to do with the fact he plays for Watford why I’m saying what I say. You may feel he was much better against Liverpool. Perhaps so, but to me that doesn’t say much - he’s nowhere near his form of the last 12 -18 months consistently.

    It sounds like I’m talking down about him but I’m really not. He’s a great player. But we aren’t talking specifically about him being a good player - that’s for his thread on the Team Bus section. We are talking about whether he’s worth £50m - I struggle to find a case for him being worth that when I look at his recent form, lack of medals, caps or there being a transfer of similar value for a player of his ability?

    If someone came along and bid that, I’d still be gutted as I like him as a player and he suits our style - but anyone who claims he’s ‘worth’ £50m does so through yellow tinted glasses IMO.
     
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  33. Since63

    Since63 Reservist

    There’s another chant out the window...
     
  34. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Reservist

    I wouldn't mind seeing him gone to be honest especially if the money is right. Whether its true or not I don't really know but I heard from someone reliable that he did not have an injury at the start of the season and the reason he was out at the start of the season was because his agent was going around talking to all the big clubs across Europe.
     
  35. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

     

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