(9) Troy Deeney

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  1. CaveManHornet

    CaveManHornet Reservist

    Bloody hell and behind him is Gianni Infantino. It really is celebrity central that section!
     
  2. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard Squad Player

    So is Deeney playing with three broken toes then?
     
  3. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss Squad Player

    Tom Cleverley is a weird looking bloke. He looks like a CG character with his featureless rubbery face.

    And yeah whats the story with "Toegate" ? Was that just Deeney trolling the TV interviewer ?
     
  4. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    And Gerry D next to him by the look of it (with the massive hand scratching his head) Were watford on the subs bench on Saturday night?

    Ricky Gervais behind him
     
  5. Sort of OK

    Sort of OK First Year Pro

    Is that photoshopped or is his head that big, looks out of proportion to all those around him?
     
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  6. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    Y
    You have a point, despite being in the background of the shot, his head is still bigger than anybody’s in the foreground! I mean it’s even bigger than Brendan Rogerses is!

    Mind you, Gervais, right at the back gives Deeney’s a run for its money.
     
  7. Jossy

    Jossy Reservist

    It's a genuine screen grab from the footage, no Photoshop here!

    Here's a few seconds later, talking to each other:

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  8. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss Squad Player

    So has this Fat Fxck broken his foot from having too much weight sitting on his cankles or not ?
     
  9. Sort of OK

    Sort of OK First Year Pro

    I didn't mean to question your image, thanks for confirming though, massive head it is.
     
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  10. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Be our luck if one of them had tripped over and injured themselves even more!
     
  11. According to BBC Carabao cup preview not available for MKSpuds but OK for @rse.
     
  12. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss Squad Player

    Can’t believe I’m saying this compared to last season, but I’d be very worried if Fat Boy got injured. Absolutely intrinsic to this new system
     
  13. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Great video of Deeney and AJ speaking together

     
  14. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    He has shown it doesn't matter if he gets injured, he will still play. I expect he'd play after a cruciate as long as he could have a jab.
     
  15. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

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  16. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

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    If FIFA 19 is to be believed then it appears he missed the Wolves game with "zombitus". With our medical team I'm not sure we can expect to see him back any time this season, or in fact ever, in part due to their incompetence but also due to the fact that Troy allegedly keeps trying to eat their brains (as well as everything else containing calories that he lays his eyes on).
     
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  17. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    That's quite a good likeness,apart from the shirt.
     
  18. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    So, at what point exactly is it that it becomes widely accepted, as clear as it already is, that he is nowhere near enough at this level anymore?

    He has scored 7 goals in 43 games (2 or 3 of which were penalties), turns like a tank, sprints like a snail, more often than not gets dominated by centre backs despite how much he'd like everyone to believe he can't be matched physically, and generally spends the vast majority of his time on the pitch giving the opposition very little to worry about in terms of being a direct threat. There are still those desperate to praise him and chant his name any time he does something that falls within the basic requirements of his role - like winning a header or barging a player off the ball - but the reality is he offers nothing of any real substance 90% of the time and hasn't done for almost two years.

    I'm just bored of it, I'm bored of him. He was great for us years ago and gave us some great moments, but his time is up.
     
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  19. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Trouble is nor to any of our other strikers really deliver what they are able to do on a regular basis.
     
  20. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    No, but at least the potential is there in Deulofeu and Success (who already does most things Deeney is good at better than him, and has a top speed of over 3mph) and there's every chance that they can still both improve considerably. Deeney however is on a downward spiral and has been for a long time.
     
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  21. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    So I actually thought Deeney had a good game today...he gave the Cardiff defenders lots to think about and came deep to help make space. Shows some nice touches when the ball is played to his feet. I also don't think you can underestimate his role as a leader in this group. For me he still offers enough to be starting games.
     
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  22. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Totally agree, however he's just not a goal threat. Still has a lot to offer, but we seriously have to rely on others to score the goals which is not ideal.

    When you have your left back outscoring your main striker, it's a bit of a problem.
     
  23. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    For the first goal, Deeney had two Cardiff defenders marshalling him in the 18-yard box which allowed Pereyra to run in unmarked AND allowed Delofeu to continue his run and finish. In this moment he didn’t actually do anything else apart from occupy the two defenders, and he didn’t need to! I thought he played the role as a foil well today but also remembering that also Cardiff weren’t very good.

    When he brings the ball down, he is strong and has the intelligence to look at playing in another player. Unfortunately he has slowed down and isn’t always afforded the time. I hate to say that he doesn’t look like scoring. Queuing up a shot takes him too long. He has his qualities and today Javi used him well.
     
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  24. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Without him would the others score as many goals? I think his positioning and physicality give teams something to think about. As a target man it is all about bringing others into the game and creating time and space.
     
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  25. Deeney had a good game, although it must be said the game suited him. Cardiff were defending deep and much of the game (until they came out after 3-0) was played in front of them, there was little need for a striker with pace in behind.
     
  26. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Again I agree. This is what he does best but we do need someone who is a bit more of a goal threat.
     
  27. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    We wouldn’t go into the market & buy Troy.

    We have him & make the best use we can of him.

    He has done a phenomenal job at improving & making himself an option within progressively more skilful teams over 8 years.

    But plainly his skills aren’t suited to the style of play we saw today.

    I’m not convinced that Isaac is much more than a younger version.

    Gino’s dilemma is whether splashing out on an Alcacer has any financial logic. If it’s the difference between 6-7 & 10-13, probably not.
     
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  28. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    Pretty much agree with that, but I do think that the difference between 6-7 and 10-13 is quite big in terms of how we are thought of by potential new players. It moves us from being closer to Europe, than it does to relegation, with ambition rather than a perennial fight against the drop and generally means that we the fans are looking ahead with excitement, than dread. It is more than just the £8m to £12m in prize-money.
     
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  29. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    I would say the difference between 6-7 and 10-13 is huge, for all the reasons you give. The prize money is insignificant compared to the intangibles.
     
  30. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    How much value does Gino place on the intangibles?

    I would love us to buy an Alcacer (who would be both the final piece in the jigsaw & a fox in the box) but how monumental would the cost for a ‘finished product’ striker be?

    A Giroud would be hugely expensive.

    An Origi expensive but a possible Pozzo reboot option.

    Which leaves a Cucho or what we have.

    (I think the Mackail-Smith ship has sailed.)
     
  31. Keighley

    Keighley Squad Player

    Le Fondre?
     
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  32. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    So basically he helped Deulofeu to score his first goal purely by existing and giving the defenders the job of marking one of our other players? Great...

    I don't buy this "he's a foil for others" lark at all. It's rare that he intelligently drags people around, he is often extremely static in attacking positions and anyone can "create space for others" purely just by being there.

    He's a striker that doesn't score goals, doesn't create goals and doesn't offer a direct attacking threat to the opposition the vast majority of the time. It's not good enough. 7 goals and 3 assists in 43 games is terrible.
     
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  33. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    It is difficult to say, as he doesn't actually say very much and I personally struggle at understanding whether we are financially secure, or insecure. But I remember an interview the Pozzo's gave several years ago when they said that they get their biggest kicks from competing with the big clubs as a smaller club, referring to Udinese's success in the upper echelons of the Italian league a few years ago, and they wanted to do that again with Watford. If that was true, then I think intangibles may be important to him.
     
  34. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    If he turns up at Colney car park on Jan 1, anything could happen.
     
  35. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Hopefully.

    If we bought Alcacer maybe we wouldn’t be a smaller club any more though.
     

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