(24) Tom Dele-Bashiru

Discussion in 'The Team Bus' started by Squibba, Sep 25, 2019.

  1. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Looks like another season of an awful injury record.

    Already lost Masina, now TDB too. Gray, Hughes, Deeney, Chalobah, Cleverley, Sema and Kiko have all had issues already as well, although thankfully some small.

    Then Janmaat and Success seem permanently injured now.
     
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  2. Feel for the guy, first league start, looking bright, and this happens
     
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  3. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Bloody hell. What a day.
     
  4. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    Poor lad. Looked a proper player. We have had some awful luck with players doing their ACLs in the last few years. I'm no physio but as far as I'm aware that can't be down to training regimes can it? If you're losing a player a week to muscle injuries then that's the club's fault, but ACLs is just really unfortunate.

    Hopefully he can show Nate how you're supposed to come back from a knee injury.
     
  5. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    It looked like the Geri incident when he went down. I was surprised he continued playing.

    Season over before it began. Shame as he had such a bright future. They can work wonders these days, and he's young, but let's not pretend this type of injury can change the direction of a career. Desperately feel sorry for him.
     
  6. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

  7. Really sad news. Had waited a season patiently for his chance and had looked the part - now this season is effectively a write-off for him and its back to the drawing board.
     
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  8. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

  9. reids

    reids Squad Player

    Was amazed he played on after the initial injury on Saturday, his leg went the other way and you could see something went. Said to a mate that he was surely done and was stunned that he came back on (or allowed to continue). Was less amazed that he had to go off 5 mins later though.
     
  10. Chumlax

    Chumlax Reservist

    So now we need a central midfielder regardless of whether Capoue goes or not, huzzah! Unless we can hold off and survive until TD-B comes back from this in 18 months. I'm sure that's what Gino will be banking on, as a prudent fellow.
     
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  11. Carpster

    Carpster Reservist

    Gutted for him. Was starting to look the part.
     
  12. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    Feel so sorry for TDB. Such awful luck for him.

    This club is in such a mess.
     
  13. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    "You don't play youth at this club!"

    Is it common for a club to get this many long-term injuries, or are we that unlucky? From the top of my head we've had TDB, Chalobah, Janmaat, Pereyra, Deulofeu, Cleverley(?) and Welbeck all out for significant periods in the last couple of years. Janmaat and Welbeck is suppose is the risk when you sign injury-prone players.
     
  14. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Shame, feel for the guy but he fits the Pozzo model now.
     
  15. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Squad Player

    Horrible, has looked great. Not a clue why we left him on after he first went down.
     
  16. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Somebody up there really ******* hates us :mad: So sad for the lad he was looking so good :(
     
  17. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    We lost Cathcart for pretty much an entire season a few years ago too. Success as well.
     
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  18. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Gino is urgently flicking through the little black book of Udinese CM duds as we speak...
     
  19. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    Negligence to leave him on, considering he went down without contact, out for 6 months, I doubt if we will see him again this season!
     
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  20. barely1egal

    barely1egal First Year Pro

    We sign players with known injury problems and then act surprised when they get injured.
     
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  21. CaveManHornet

    CaveManHornet Reservist

    And when he does return, he’ll be as ***** as Chalobah has been
     
  22. Ágætis Byrjun

    Ágætis Byrjun Reservist

    So of that lovely list of exciting youth players, we probably only have Pedro, Ngakia, Wilmot and a so-far-underwhelming Quina.
     
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  23. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Just let this sink in. We let a player with an ACL injury carry on playing. Or he had a more minor injury but this then caused the ACL injury when he went down the second time. This club...
     
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  24. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Tough on the lad - and probably won't be back for a year at least with our record on knee injuries.

    SLB is right - probably made it worse making him play on for a bit.
     
  25. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I would not be surprised if he told Vlad he was OK to continue because he was so keen to carry on playing, and lets face it Vlad does not have a scanner on the sideline to confirm if the lad is telling the truth or not does he.
     
  26. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    It is difficult to say how much the physios knew about his injury? They probably didn't see the TV replays we saw, and may have been guided by what the player told them.
     
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  27. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Genuine question. Would/should a medical team be able to tell from seeing TDB's knee how severe the injury is? Or from TDB's description of what happened? I'd like to think our doctors wouldn't let him play on if they had any suspicion of a serious injury...

    As TVOR said, if TDB said it's not that bad I'd like to carry on, and there's no obvious signs of severe damage, what should they do?
     
  28. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Why make news about a serious injury in to a dig at the owner?
     
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  29. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    I didn't see them doing a scan while he was on the pitch but suppose they must have done to have known this
     
  30. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Really bad luck on his full debut; and you could understand why he would want to play on. Tommy Mooney warned at the first injury that these ones don't necessarily hurt much and evinced surprise that he could carry on. The physios must shoulder some of the blame: They are supposed to be the experienced ones. I think the point about not seeing tv replays is fair enough, however.
     
  31. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    I would say that the way he went down, immediately crumpling and putting his arm across his face and rolling back and forth were signs enough that he was in serious distress. How many times has anyone ever seen a player do that not in a tackle and not have a serious injury?

    I appreciate that he's got to say how he's feeling too but I really feel we should've been safety first here, even recognising that it was his first start and that he would want to continue.
     
  32. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    If only you had made it past the second sentence of the post you quoted...
     
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2020
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  33. Chumlax

    Chumlax Reservist

    Hahahaha
     
  34. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    Surely unless a bone is poking out only the player can tell how bad it really is?

    Our ancient fight or flight system releases a load of adrenaline at the outset of a series injury (like a broken bone) so we can flee danger if we need to. Once it wears off, only then does the pain become unbearable and you are aware of what’s happened.
     
  35. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I feel really sorry for this lad, especially as he seems to have such a great attitude.

    I really hope he comes back fully fit mentally (Chalobah) as well as physically, because if he does I think he may well go on to become the next WFC legend.
     
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2020

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