(18) Andre Gray

Discussion in 'The Team Bus' started by Meister, Aug 13, 2017.

  1. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason The One and Only

    I see you found it then :rolleyes:
     
  2. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Goodness.

    I actually deleted a Club Tropicana thought on the above , not sure why.

    Uncanny.
     
  3. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Yes m8, I looked five posts above mine and saw it. Should have done that before I posted really. Maybe next time eh? Lol
     
  4. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    What ? He was with the Luton manager ?
     
  5. Hornet4ever

    Hornet4ever First Year Pro

    Need to bump the AG thread up. Not much said about him but he's influencing how we're playing.

    Deserves credit. Also came 3rd in the goal of the month & nice to see we're now getting some reasonable value from that transfer fee.
     
  6. carboy98

    carboy98 First Year Pro

    He works bloody hard, presses well and has physicality as well as pace. Most importantly though I think is his movement, he drags defenders around with his intelligent runs which creates space for the others. This is something I don't think we've had upfront for a long time and I don't think anyone else at the club can do. (Well, maybe Cucho Hernandez!)

    This really helps our system and why I'm happy to see him playing even if he isn't banging them in.

    Having said that, there are definitely weaknesses in his play, mostly technical, but if he had a top notch first touch and clinical finishing he'd be a top-tier player.

    If he could get to a position where he's scoring just a little more, as well as making these other contributions, I think we've got to be happy with him.
     
  7. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason The One and Only

    Yeah I agree with what you say, but I don't think is going to improve on the technical side at least not enough to be a first choice decent PL striker.

    Therefore I think we should be striving to find someone who can fill that role, but AG could still be a reasonable impact sub with his pace so maybe we could keep him for that purpose, but not as one of our main strikers.
     
  8. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Hopefully we can pick up that Messi guy in the lone window to fill the technical goalscoring striker roll.
     
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  9. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    I think he's doing OK. As others have said he does work hard and makes a lot of good runs, and I imagine he will finish the season with somewhere between 8-10 league goals which will be a decent return, but on the flip side he is still woeful at times from a technical perspective. He often looks so, so uncomfortable with the ball at his feet and everything just looks extremely awkward and unnatural.

    Like I say though, all in all doing a decent enough job despite his obvious limitations.
     
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  10. wingco

    wingco First Year Pro

    His hold up play has improved a lot since last season.
     
  11. jw-

    jw- Reservist

    Likely correlates with us playing Foster, Kabasele, and Cathcart, who are all pretty decent passes of the ball. I agree though, there has been a noticeable improvement.
     
  12. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    For me, that was his best performance in a Watford shirt on Saturday. He was excellent. He was actually getting into good positions and getting shots off. This is something I've not seen him do in many games previously.

    He's forming a good partnership with Deeney and it's great to see him finally start to live up to the transfer fee. His work rate and aggression have never been in doubt, but his technical qualities have left a lot to be desired since he signed. Now he must have worked hard on this as his performances have dramatically improved to a level where I don't think you can think of dropping him.
     
  13. Hornet4ever

    Hornet4ever First Year Pro

    Typical Pozzo foresight, bought on the cheap a season early to develop him & in preparation for when we will need him.

    I'm sticking to this anyway.
     
  14. Timbers

    Timbers Apeman

    Who would have thought a player who flourished playing with a big man up top as a partner in the past would suddenly flourish now? The couple of times we done 442 last season he looked so much better and it's certainly the best form of his Watford career at the moment. His touch has improved massively.
     
  15. Jossy

    Jossy Reservist

    Reminds me of the home game with Southampton last season. 0-2 down at half time, played off the park. Deeney brought on for the second half, and we battered them. Gray got his goal, and the pair of them continued to link really well - only for ssssilva to inexplicably sub Gray for Okaka on 73 minutes and hand the momentum straight back to the Saints. Doucoure's injury time sleight of hand got snakey out of jail (albeit for only 1 more week:)).
     
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  16. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

  17. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

  18. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    They way they all celebrated it's quite clearly the first goal he's ever scored in training.
     
  19. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    That video shows off his fantastic pace
     
  20. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Hope our players don't do that too often - they might get injured knowing our luck!
     
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  21. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

  22. mgf_portas

    mgf_portas Academy Graduate

    Not in the last few match day squads... any news/thoughts on this? Okaka selected in front of him.
     
  23. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina Squad Player

    Injured I think. One of those mystery ones where the medical team don't give any info. I'd like to see him back given Deeney and Success recent displays.
     
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  24. mgf_portas

    mgf_portas Academy Graduate

    Interesting. Has a strong smell of ‘off in January’.
     
  25. Hornet4ever

    Hornet4ever First Year Pro

    Agree. Always wondered if it's beyond the realms of possibility for Burnley to take him back before the add-ons accumulate. SD knows how to play him,he would fit straight back in to that team & he could be the super hero to score the goals & keep them up.
    Regards,
    Gino.
     
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  26. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    If Burnley had a superfluous fox in the box, maybe a straight swap would be in order.
     
  27. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Maybe a superfluous otter ?
     
  28. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Any of the subfamily Lutrinae or even an actual fox.
     
  29. Not too many of them around - it's New Year's Day and the Tory bloodlust is rampant.
     
  30. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    It is odd how hunting has boomed since it was banned.

    Like alcohol spending during Prohibition.
     
  31. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    I think he could still have a part to play here in the second half of the season, but if there’s a Championship club willing to stump up some cash in January to boost their promotion bid, or replace somebody just sold, I’d take it without hesitation.

    It’s a shame it never really worked out for him here. I was quite excited when we signed him, because it looked like we’d finally signed a striker with a bit of pace and an eye for goal. Turns out he’s not that quick, nor does he have much of an eye for goal.
     
  32. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina Squad Player

    Is a championship club going to pay him 70k per week? Seems doubtful.
     
  33. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Champo awash with wages this season, I would think.

    All the 30k teams in the mix for promotion.
     
  34. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    It's unlikely he'd go in this window, IMO, but I think he'll go back to Luton if they get promoted. The big question is could they afford him? Probably not, but I know they love him there and I'm sure he'd be happy to go back.

    The question is, since his injury has anyone thought we need him back, or he's a big loss. Not really, so this tells me we don't need him. He's not missed, but just part of the squad that makes the bench.
     

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