18-19 Points Progress

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Davidmsawyer, Aug 21, 2018.

  1. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    I'm actually quite shocked by this, but Watford ARE officially the 7th best team in the Premier League. The fact we're not 7th is down to our lack of ability against the top six. But the table below shows we smashed it.

    .........……...….....P..W..D..L..Pts
    Watford...….....25..13..8..4..47
    Everton...……..26..12..6.. 8..42
    Bournemouth 25..12..6..7.. 42
    Wolves...……...26..12..5..9.. 41
    Leicester City. 26..12..5..9.. 41
    Newcastle...….25..10..9..6.. 39
    West Ham......25..11..4..10. 37
    Burnley...…….26..10..5..11..35
    Cardiff City....26...9...4..13..31
    Crystal Palace 25...7.. 9..9..30
    Southampton 25...7...9..9..30
    Brighton...…..26...7...7..10..28
    Fulham...…...25...7...5..13...26
    Huddersfeld.25...3...5..17...14

    Looking at our goals for and against, this is also quite revealing. We scored 43 of our 51 goals in 25 matches against the rest. Only getting 8 against top six. But defensively this is probably the biggest reveal. We conceded 27 in 25 games against the rest, which is very respectable, but a dreadful 28 in just 12 games against the rest.

    It's clear we've got to dramatically improve against top six opposition. Most teams around us are averaging 10-12 points. Leicester got 10, Everton 11 and West Ham 12. Wolves got an incredible 16 points against top six.

    Only the three relegated sides, Fulham, Huddersfield and Cardiff did worse against the top six than us. Even Southampton and Palace obtained 8 points each against the elite this season.

    We picked up just 3 points against the top six, and that was in our first test of the season. Since then we lost the remaining 11.

    If we beat West Ham and Wolves lose at Liverpool, which is possible and probably likely, then we'll finish just 4 points behind them. Just one win and a draw. Just a small improvement, whilst maintaining what we've already got.
     
    RookeryDad and Davidmsawyer like this.
  2. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Good analysis. It's a shame we've been so awful against the top 6 teams. We're where we are because we've been excellent against the rest only. Whereas Wolves have done well against the rest but been exceptional against the top 6.
     
  3. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Flat track bullies and all that.
     
  4. Davidmsawyer

    Davidmsawyer Statto Statto Statto

    The current position is:
    • 9 points better than this time last year (50 vs 41). This is 3 points worse than after the last game.
    • 12 points better than the comparable fixtures last year (50 vs 38). This is the same as after the last game
    • 11 points better than the '40 point' line (50 vs 39). This is 1 points worse than after the last game.
    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
    kVA, EB Hornet and Meister like this.
  5. Meister

    Meister Administrator Staff Member

    Nice to see we've kicked on and the form vs comparable teams has improved slightly looking a the gradient.
     
  6. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    And apple.
     
    Sting likes this.
  7. Sting

    Sting Squad Player

    so right - how did I miss that?
     
  8. LutherB

    LutherB Academy Graduate

    Could we add a "We stopped coming out to Z Cars" line please.
     
  9. Davidmsawyer

    Davidmsawyer Statto Statto Statto

    Oh well, not the best of ends but still the best points total in the latest era...

    The current position is:
    • 9 points better than this time last year (50 vs 41). This is the same as after the last game.
    • 9 points better than the comparable fixtures last year (50 vs 41). This is 3 points worse than after the last game.
    • 10 points better than the '40 point' line (50 vs 40). This is 1 points worse than after the last game.
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  10. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    We are Champions League for value for money.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Reservist

    Christ we are crap at closing out seasons aren't we. Total flatlines twice in 3 years.
     
  12. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Very interesting table.
     
  13. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    This puts the Wolves success into some perspective. Gaming the system or not with their super agent, they are not simply buying success with bottomless pockets.

    Fair play.
     
  14. Sting

    Sting Squad Player

    A brilliant thread and a season of great posts by David. A massive thank you from me.
     
  15. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    I believe we actually finished on 53 points but "someone" didn't want to have to increase his "y axis" again.
     
    Sting and Davidmsawyer like this.
  16. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    True. The analysis doesn't include transfer fees but I don't believe they paid any spectacular fees.
     
  17. Davidmsawyer

    Davidmsawyer Statto Statto Statto

    Thanks Sting, it was mostly a pleasure apart from when the graph didn’t rise
     
  18. Onceamascot

    Onceamascot Academy Graduate

    [QUOTE="
    [​IMG][/QUOTE]

    So 1984 was the only other season we had 50 points after 38 games. We also finished 11th, reached the FA cup final and had our left back sent off the week before the final. All sounding strangely familiar.
     
    Davidmsawyer likes this.
  19. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    We’re the Lionel Messi of the Bottom 14.

    Or Graeme Hick.
     
  20. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Reservist

    [/QUOTE]So 1984 was the only other season we had 50 points after 38 games. We also finished 11th, reached the FA cup final and had our left back sent off the week before the final. All sounding strangely familiar.[/QUOTE]
    Amazing! So it’s nailed on for a creditable 2-0 defeat, then?
     
  21. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Viva Colin!
     
  22. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Hear, hear.

    Looking forward to vertical lines & cake pictures next season.
     
    Sting and Davidmsawyer like this.
  23. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    So 1984 was the only other season we had 50 points after 38 games. We also finished 11th, reached the FA cup final and had our left back sent off the week before the final. All sounding strangely familiar.[/QUOTE]

    And one A Gray scored the winner.
     
    Davidmsawyer likes this.

Share This Page