Will You Heed The Call To Stay In This Weekend?

Official government advice below:

You should only leave the house for very limited purposes:

• shopping for basic necessities, for example food and medicine, which must be as infrequent as possible.
• one form of exercise a day, for example a run, walk, or cycle - alone or with members of your household.
• any medical need, including to donate blood, avoid or escape risk of injury or harm, or to provide care or to help a vulnerable person.
• travelling for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home

Don't think there's any advice for essential sunbathing in there? People should just do what the f**k they're told rather than being selfish c***s.

There is your serious reply.

 

The Health Secretary on Andrew Marr this morning said that if people can't adhere to the simple isolation rules then they will have no hesitation in banning everyone from having one exercise per day.
The rules are frustrating yes but the sooner people have a bit of self control the sooner we can get through this.

I also read that police were kicking people off of Brighton beach yesterday and a couple have been summons to court for having a BBQ on Hove beach. I can see picnics and BBQs on public land being made illegal soon, what will it take for folks to get the f******g message?

 

Going for a daily run is the one bit of normality I have left, but I wouldn't blame the government for implementing it.

The words selfish and thick don't come close to describing some of the people in this country.

 

These people need to be euthanised. The world would be a better place without them.

 

Why do you hate this country so much? I hear the channel tunnel is still open.
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You are fighting something that can never be controlled. This virus was spreading all around the world Q4 2019. The core of the damage has already been done.

Every time you leave your front door in 2020, you have a chance of contracting it. So you can go to a supermarket with 100 people in it, or sit in a garden with 4 people, you can catch it.

Don't go out you say? How likely is that really?

Many could starve, or end up costing the NHS Billions in mental health issues when people don't have structure, a properly functioning economy, jobs, daily routines & security. All reliant on the state to support them monetarily. I believe that is more unhealthy.

It's all very short sited IMO. Too little too late. Proves our government had absolutely zero plan & you want to put your faith in them they are giving you the right advice.

I mean no harm so why all the hate & sarky comments? If I am not welcome to post here and give a contrary opinion, I will graciously leave.

 

I don't. I think that because we are a bigger country (population wise) we generate, tolerate and support more scumbags, and suffer as a result.

 

So if you, based on your very limited knowledge of the virus and potential outcomes, decide that you know better than the govt and medical advisors, and feel that the new isolation rules are wrong, you feel you should just be able to ignore them ? It’s people like you, who think they are cleverer and better informed than they actually are, who will start civil unrest.

 

Real scumbags they are aint they.

How dare they sunbathe in a park. Should be euthanised said one poster above. Nice.

erm....but they weren't scumbags last week, before the government gave their advice.

 

I was being sarcastic. Sorry!

 

Here we go again "It’s people like you, who think they are cleverer and better informed" & now "I will start civil unrest"

If civil unrest happens it's because they are caged up like animals.

So why are these heathens not idiots when they go to a supermarket, but they are when they sunbathe?

 

If the daily exercise is banned I think this would have a significant negative impact on the mental and physical well-being of the vast majority who abide by the rules. Surely widespread fine issuing is preferable to that.

 

Yes they were, it was just that the new scumbag tests weren't available then. They probably espouse the 'stiff upper lip, blitz spirit' so beloved of morons who think we are a special country while simultaneously demonstrating that the only thing we are specially good at is ****erdom.

 

you really are utterly thick aren’t you ? You think because people are allowed to buy essential food in a controlled environment, they should be allowed to congregate and sunbathe in the local park. Please tell me that this is a wind up, if so it’s a very good one and you certainly got me.

 

Because they have been told they can go to the supermarket for essential shopping. They have been told they can exercise once a day whilst maintaining social distancing. It's very simple.

In fact you seem to be the perfect exemplar of why the half-arsed government approach is not working properly.

 

I’m for the lockdown, seeing it through until the very first opportunity to relax it.

But I don’t agree with the rising tide of anger about those ‘defying it’. The observance and good naturedness of most people is the striking feature for me. The reports of Brighton Beach or Cassiobury Park were sensationalist and largely false imo.

But the potential is there, on a nice weekend, when people are limited in their choices of where to go for their one exercise for things to get a bit busy. People need to be sensible, spread out from each other and use the full day. That’s all.

 

So you think those who choose to defy it should be allowed to without consequence ? A nice day to drive to the beach today ?
I agree that it was always bound to happen that people would congregate to places like Cassio Park to spend their exercise time. I’m sure they will have been intending to stay 2m away from anyone else. However for families to then congregate and take picnics shouldn’t be tolerated. I’m sure the police wouldn’t have closed the park based on the actions of just a few.

 

No, people need to be deterred from travelling by car for their leisure. That appeared to be the case at Brighton for example as it was apparently fairly deserted.

But the Police didn’t close the park (they closed the car park) and the picnic stuff was largely made up.

We are on the same side here. I agree that people should heed the warnings. It’s my experience that mostly they are doing so. I think a national pat on the back may be better than the cries of bring out the water cannon.

And that’s not to say that some idiots won’t bend the rules or ignore them. Where populations are very dense there may be a few of them at one time. They need to be dissuaded, but most people are doing well.

 

Well yeah, Brighton Beach seems to have been untrue and the person who described Cassiobury Park on here I wouldn't believe if he told us it was Sunday today. But there are countless examples of it elsewhere.

In my area, suddenly everyone is a jogger. Pushchair-Mania is running wild with the usual suspects all meeting for a chat taking up the whole path. Kids running around screaming together like nothing's changed.

It's better than it was admittedly but if the minority get away with it, it'll be 10 times worse on Easter Weekend.

 

I agree it could easily slip. The first lockdown weekend showed what people will do if they only partially hear the message or if they think the Government doesn’t really mean it.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52172035

It'll work for a few weeks and can probably be enforced in areas like central London, but once you get out to the suburbs and beyond you're fighting a losing battle.

 

Based on the 9 mile run I just got back from, it’s not runners that are the problem. If the government wants to ban something it should immediately ban dog walking out of sight of your own home.

The amount of dog walkers out on ambling slow walks, clogging up pavements, stopping to chat or collect crap, is phenomenal. And they’re much more likely to decide spontaneously to pop into a shop they happen to be passing or knock on a friend’s door than a person out running a planned route for their regular exercise.

 

Shows your true level doesn't it.

You've had the sniffles & survived, so that's the main thing.

& anyway if you don't know I am 'Last Man Standing' winner of the whole forum, what more does a man need to prove his aptitude!

 

I think the main point of social isolating is about odds.
If you go to a super market and practice caution of course you put yourself and others at risk but it's considered necessary and should be done only when it is.
But should you then visit friends you have increased your chance of getting infected or infecting someone else unnecessarily.
Also some suggest that it better just get it and be done with and as many will get infected by isolating people we stretch the time frame of infections out thus dropping the curve.
The irony is that to keep the pressure of your NHS the isolation may have to be in place for quite a while so as to hold the infection rate down.

 

Yes congrats on winning that. I’m surprised the UK Govt haven’t been in touch to ask for your advice. It’s only a matter of time I’m sure.

 

Pleased the virus has not taken away your sense of houmous.

 

If i'm infected & I go to ASDA (which is definitely allowed) with 100 people walking around the aisles, I can super spread it. They will then super spread it when they go to the supermarket next week to a whole new set of people.
or
If I go to a park with 4 people I can super spread it, all be it to a lessor extent.

I have already done the damage in the first scenario & I was allowed to do it. Unless I can't go to a supermarket.

 

But isnt that the point of essential shopping only
If you go to Asda you could spread it but if you practice caution you could drop the odds but of course not guarantee that you wont.
But should you go to the park unnecessarily you then increase the odds of spreading it.
We should be of the mind to keep the odds of us passing it on to others to a minimum and avoid unnecessary places or interactions

 

You can’t go to Asda if you’re infected. We’ve not been to a shop in 2 weeks. If you don’t know yet that you’re infected then at least the shops are keeping shoppers safely apart and wiping down trollies so the risk of contamination is small for what is an essential trip (if you can’t get an on line slot ...and they are like gold dust).

 

It HAS taken away my sense of hummus. My taste buds are completely up the creek. If I shut my eyes I have literally no idea what I’m eating. If fact Mrs TuT and I have debated playing “guess the food” in the next day or two.

 

Just back from a dog walk and apart from a few passing hello’s from a distance I didn’t stop to speak to anybody and nor did I see anybody else stop to chat. However I’ve just walked past my local Coop to see a couple of joggers come out with some lunch supplies.
Dog walkers are fine and actually might get people a little fitter and in fact most people getting some exercise are fine if done correctly

 

Everything past the first scenario IMO is irrelevant. Ifs, buts, maybes etc.

The 'collateral damage' has already been done & it's allowed. That's the main point I am trying to make. All based on the assumption one does not know they are carrying, which will be the case with most people of the population.

The virus doesn't care if the journey is essential or not. It's irrelevant. It can & has already spread & multiplied exponentially.

I would actually favour a 100% ban on supermarkets & find a constructive way for the delivery drivers to be re-deployed to deliver street by street, rather than on an ad/hoc house by house basis.